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Katie

Katie

Crazy for Corns Member
Hi all, just thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Katie. I also have a question for you all on genetics. I am getting a cornsnake on Sunday. It's 10 months old and 18 inches long. It's father was a bloodred and it's mother a normal. If I breed this snake with a normal what would I get? I know bloodred isn't a recessive trait, more a combination of traits but I don't quite understand how it works. The corn I'm getting looks like a bloodred to me (unexperienced eye), barely any black around the saddles (less and less as it gets older I've been told by the breeder), no white around the saddles, and very bright reds and oranges (background is distinctly orangy). It's a beautiful snake and I don't plan on breeding it anytime soon, just would like to understand a bit more about the genetics of my corn.


Also, I know my snake was a picky eater when it was young. It had to be fed with a pinky pump for quite sometime and refused to eat on it's own. It is eating well now, great acctually but I've been told that if I ever do breed it that I should breed to a snake who had NO eating problems what so ever when it was young. I was told that this would improve the chances of the young not being picky because picky eaters often had offspring who were also picky eaters. Is this true? Have any of you ever experienced this?

Thanks in advance for any and all replies!
 
Hey Katie congrates on joining a GOOD forum this site has helped me learn about alot of things... but anyways... the way you describe the corn it sounds like a sunglow... but if the father was a bloodred and the mother a normal... and if there wasnt any hets in both of the parents then your corn will be a normal het bloodred... usually normals that are het blood usually take on some of the characteristics of bloods like when they age their patterns start to fade because of the bloods genes in them... but anyways... if you breed it to a normal then you would get 1/2 of the offspring will be het blood, and the other 1/2 will be just plain normal corns will no hets to them at all...

and for your last question I'm not to sure about that... Ive heard that the bloods are very picky eaters... because their so small when they are born... I would breed your future corn probably to something that was a little bit bigger... the Okettes are usually pretty good feeders when they are young the same with the creamsicle(this is becuase its alot bigger then the other corns because its cross breeding with the Emory rat snake) but I really couldnt give you alot of information about this subject... sorry
 
Thanks!

Corny, Thanks for your info about the blood reds genetics. I had thought that bloodred wasn't a like amel gene and wasn't passed on the same way, so it's good to know.

Apparently the snake I'm getting was a very picky eater and just started eating well and regularly a couple of months ago (it's an 01). I'm hoping that now that it's eating properly it won't slip back into old habits! Lol.

Anyway, I would still like to hear from anyone who has experienced picky eaters offspring being picky eaters as well. My breeder said his whole clutch from the bloodred x normal pairing were bad eaters and he had alot of trouble with them for awhile.

Oh, and wish me luck guys, I'm going to see my *hopefully* new snake on Sunday. Don't know if he'll be coming home with me that day or next weekend but it'll be soon!
 
From what I've read, on Rich's site and others, bloodreds have a history of preferring green anoles as a first food instead of pinkies. This could be resolved by scenting a pinkie with a green anole and thus helping the bloodreds to become voracious mouse eaters.

I wouldn't purchase a snake for a pet with a history of feeding problems no matter how pretty it is.

If it was something rare and spectacular that I wanted to breed, then that would be a different story. It may not pass that problem on to its young, but then again it very well could.

My 2 cents.

Peter
 
My 10 month old hypo bloodred won't touch mice without me first quickly rubbing them on an old dried-up anole that has been frozen and thawed countless times and doesn't smell that great to me, but it seems to turn on the snake. To each their own :rolleyes: .
 
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