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New viv
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Claude
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I would think that in most cases it would not matter, but if you have particularly nervous snake the wood might be better because it would give more cover than the glass viv would.
Since on the wood it would have all but one side opaque. And on glass only one side(the top) is opaque, so it makes the snake feel more vulnerable to predators because all the sides are open.
Now this is all my own theory so I am not sure if it is true or not :shrugs:
Since on the wood it would have all but one side opaque. And on glass only one side(the top) is opaque, so it makes the snake feel more vulnerable to predators because all the sides are open.
Now this is all my own theory so I am not sure if it is true or not :shrugs:
CMatt2157
Don't Be "That Guy"
No offense Claude but I think you are overthinking this decision. Personally I would go with glass. I believe its cheaper and its a lot easier to clean. With wood, there comes certain problems like where to place the heat pad.
And if, like Claude said, your snake is worried about predators, go ahead and get a background on 3 sides for your snake. I only a 30 gallon glass with a solid background and he is always wondering the viv.
And don't you think glass looks a little better? That's just my opinion though.
And if, like Claude said, your snake is worried about predators, go ahead and get a background on 3 sides for your snake. I only a 30 gallon glass with a solid background and he is always wondering the viv.
And don't you think glass looks a little better? That's just my opinion though.
MomFor2Gifts
MomFor2Gifts
Claude you are exactly right
Actually Claude, is correct. The use of glass vivs has nothing to do with the snakes natural environment or comfortability and is based solely on aesthetics. Glass tanks are not actually snake friendly because of the open top.
Additionally all glass lets air in and out. With that being said it also means heat escapes not only from the glass sides, bottom and front but since heat rises it also escapes from the open top.
A viv that has only one exposed area of glass, ie the front, actually provides a snake a better sense of security and a better environment. Seriously this is not just my choice personally, go do some research on it to find out. When a viv has only one face of glass it retains heat in all but one area of the tank, ie the area of glass. While a glass tank lets out an enormous about of heat. Stand in front of one of your windows, pressed close to it, like a snake would be to the tank and test it out for yourself. Then imagine having your whole surroundings being like that and to top it off a open roof that lets out all your heat.
Yes you can supplement that with a heat source but then we get into the discussion of heat sources running folks electrical bills up and that is because of the length of time they have to continually generate that heat, even if regulated by a thermostat. The less amount of power needed to heat a viv the lower the electric bill.
Just wanted to let you know Claude that you are indeed right and there is a lot of info on it out there if folks want to read up about it.
Actually Claude, is correct. The use of glass vivs has nothing to do with the snakes natural environment or comfortability and is based solely on aesthetics. Glass tanks are not actually snake friendly because of the open top.
Additionally all glass lets air in and out. With that being said it also means heat escapes not only from the glass sides, bottom and front but since heat rises it also escapes from the open top.
A viv that has only one exposed area of glass, ie the front, actually provides a snake a better sense of security and a better environment. Seriously this is not just my choice personally, go do some research on it to find out. When a viv has only one face of glass it retains heat in all but one area of the tank, ie the area of glass. While a glass tank lets out an enormous about of heat. Stand in front of one of your windows, pressed close to it, like a snake would be to the tank and test it out for yourself. Then imagine having your whole surroundings being like that and to top it off a open roof that lets out all your heat.
Yes you can supplement that with a heat source but then we get into the discussion of heat sources running folks electrical bills up and that is because of the length of time they have to continually generate that heat, even if regulated by a thermostat. The less amount of power needed to heat a viv the lower the electric bill.
Just wanted to let you know Claude that you are indeed right and there is a lot of info on it out there if folks want to read up about it.
CMatt2157
Don't Be "That Guy"
OK mother, I don't know why you went on a long rant like that but I guess you had to show someone your knowledge. I only said "Claude, I think you are overthinking this decision." Yes, everyone knows a snake will feel more secure with 3 sides covered, but I said I personally like glass." But I've never had problems with keeping my viv warm with a glass tank. I really don't think it loses so much heat that you need to worry about it. But everyone is open to their own opinion and everyone should get a tank that pleases their needs.
shrimply
New member
Personally I would go with a wooden vivarium for a number of reasons.
1)I think they look a lot smarter
2) Easier access and also the fact that the snake feels threatend much more form a hand approaching from above rather than at its own level.
3)You can stack them
4) I have never trusted the lids for converting tanks into vivarium and find the locks fitted to glass running doors much more secure.
5)I think that they are easier to heat and light
6)The snake feels more secure in them
1)I think they look a lot smarter
2) Easier access and also the fact that the snake feels threatend much more form a hand approaching from above rather than at its own level.
3)You can stack them
4) I have never trusted the lids for converting tanks into vivarium and find the locks fitted to glass running doors much more secure.
5)I think that they are easier to heat and light
6)The snake feels more secure in them
BeckyG
Making it up as I go
It is really a matter of personal preference. Neither one is better or worse than the other. The snake will feel secure in either as long as there are plenty of places for him to hide. After all, snakes in nature aren't closed in on three sides. As for picking him up, a hatchling is going to feel threatened by a giant hand closing in on him from the sides as well. In nature, snakes are preyed on by more than just birds. Some predators come after them from ground level.
All of my tanks are glass, and I've never had any problem keeping them warm. And my electric bill has not increased since I started keeping snakes, either. If you are going to have multiple hundreds of them, then yes, heating vivs will affect your power usage. But for just a few, the wattage used to heat vivs is really not that much. And I would not have either a wooden tank OR a glass one without a heat source. Since most people don't keep their houses 82-85 degrees year round, a heat source is ALWAYS going to be a necessity.
If you were to get one of the glass tanks with a sliding lid, they just as secure as the front sliding doors.
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and neither will be the perfect solution. So just decide for yourself what you want and go for it.
All of my tanks are glass, and I've never had any problem keeping them warm. And my electric bill has not increased since I started keeping snakes, either. If you are going to have multiple hundreds of them, then yes, heating vivs will affect your power usage. But for just a few, the wattage used to heat vivs is really not that much. And I would not have either a wooden tank OR a glass one without a heat source. Since most people don't keep their houses 82-85 degrees year round, a heat source is ALWAYS going to be a necessity.
If you were to get one of the glass tanks with a sliding lid, they just as secure as the front sliding doors.
There are advantages and disadvantages to both, and neither will be the perfect solution. So just decide for yourself what you want and go for it.
MomFor2Gifts
MomFor2Gifts
CMatt2157 said:
CMATT your interpretation of my reply was off base and rude. Maybe you can read it again and tell me where it is a rant?
Just because someone has some information you didn't doesn't make it a rant, if it did everyone in this forum would be throwing hissy fits and having, your so called, "Rants".
What YOU said was a rant and a rude comment and hopefully You will be big enough to admit that and apologize. It is just childish to get all upset and be rude over me providing information.CMatt2157 said:
Since when did the forum become about people being rude and offensive when someone has something else to say that differs from another? I thought it was about sharing ideas, different experiences and information each has gathered. :shrugs: Guess I was wrong!
I can't help what you read into it. So why don't you go back and read it again, and this time, read what I said, not what you read into it.
CMatt2157
Don't Be "That Guy"
I could see where you think it's rude, but it's just my opinion. You think wood is better, I like glass. But both tanks have their advantages/disadvantages... I'm sick of trying to get my point across anyway and I would rather look at other posts. I agree with Becky 100%
MomFor2Gifts
MomFor2Gifts
With age comes wisdom and grace. So I cede the point, good luck with that outlook.
Take care :wavey:
Take care :wavey: