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Paradox snow

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nazzza

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I found this snake in a clutch from a snow (female) x amel het snow.
I've seen on the web a lot of paradox corn, but it still isn't a proven trait, so I assume also my snake will not transmit the trait to the hatchlings, however in the next years I'll breed the paradox with the mother and after with the daughters.
regards
nazzza
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Beautiful ruby freckled :crazy02:
Here a photograph of my 04 male :cheers:
 

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Maybe a case of personal termanology.. I would assume a paradox to have black spots and a ruby freckled to have red... but maybe I'm just in Ball Python mode o_O... come to think of it, has there ever even been a cornsnake paradox of any kind with black instead of red..?? I dunno.. I see Paradox, I picture the pic of the paradox albino BP in reptiles magazine.. go fig..

Laine
 
A paradox simply has a trait that is not common to that morph...

I don't think it matters what color spots it has. i.e. - If an amel has black or red freckles, it is a paradox.
 
CornCrazy said:
A paradox simply has a trait that is not common to that morph...

I don't think it matters what color spots it has. i.e. - If an amel has black or red freckles, it is a paradox.
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Exactly.

If an anerythristic was showing red--it would be paradox. If an amelanistic was showing black, it would be paradox.

Since a snow is a combo of both---there should be no black or red. Showing spots of either makes it a paradox.
 
So if a snow motley has spots of red, spots of black, and belly checkers, would it be a triodox? (waaa waa waa, waaaaaaaaaa) :sidestep:
 
Serpwidgets said:
So if a snow motley has spots of red, spots of black, and belly checkers, would it be a triodox? (waaa waa waa, waaaaaaaaaa) :sidestep:
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Ask Hediki, I'm sure that he would be able to give you a better name for that particular condition than I ever could.
 
Joejr14 said:
Exactly.

If an anerythristic was showing red--it would be paradox. If an amelanistic was showing black, it would be paradox.

Since a snow is a combo of both---there should be no black or red. Showing spots of either makes it a paradox.
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LOL...thanks for clarifying my statement for me! I left out the "if an anery has red" part.
 
It's only a linguistic problem, certainly if a snow that should be amelanistic and anerytristic (an eritros, from greek, without red) show the red this is a paradox, exactly as an amelanistic (a melanos, without black) with black spot is a paradox. We can call him as we want, but I hope will be a genetic trait :)
ciao
nazzza
 
Serpwidgets said:
So if a snow motley has spots of red, spots of black, and belly checkers, would it be a triodox? (waaa waa waa, waaaaaaaaaa) :sidestep:
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That depends....what color are the checkers?
 
Joejr14 said:
What? Where do you come up with this stuff?
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i never realy though of a ruby freckled snow as a parodox seeing now that it is. where i got that from was i saw a amel with black spots and they called it a parodox amel. so i just jumped to the fact that if a snow was a paradox it would have black spots not read. but i for got the whole genetic thing of the snow it just passed me. a simple mistake. forgive me :headbang: :bowdown:
 
DdotSpot said:
That depends....what color are the checkers?
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LMAO.. Hmmm.. lets see... what if they were brown? o_O Oh, anyone hear anything about that Motley someone hatched out with the belly checkers? I think it was DAND..?? Or is that post so old no one remembers it? o_O lol.. I saw it on Fauna, and posted something there, but to my dismay, Fauna isn't the most hoppin' place around for their individual animal boards..

Laine
 
scalesnthings said:
Oh, anyone hear anything about that Motley someone hatched out with the belly checkers? I think it was DAND..?? Or is that post so old no one remembers it? o_O lol.. I saw it on Fauna, and posted something there, but to my dismay, Fauna isn't the most hoppin' place around for their individual animal boards..

Laine
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I think its becoming a more and more frequent occurance...yes, I know that DAND said that he had one hatch out...I think that he called it a 'Mockley'? Also I know that Terri(CornCrazy) has hatched out a few of those. I'm sure others have as well. :)
 
Well, I had some motley-stripes hatch with faint checkers (this season). I also had a little snow "motley" that had a few belly checkers. I believe she was a motley, but sold her as a snow het or homo motley and hypo.
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LMAO.. Hmmm.. lets see... what if they were brown? o_O Oh, anyone hear anything about that Motley someone hatched out with the belly checkers? I think it was DAND..?? Or is that post so old no one remembers it? o_O lol.. I saw it on Fauna, and posted something there, but to my dismay, Fauna isn't the most hoppin' place around for their individual animal boards..

Laine
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wow.. do you have any left for sale? o_O And has anyone reproduced this? I think it'd be a fun little side thing.. just to answer questions and have some neat animals.. along with the theme of this thread, couldn't they be called Paradox too? lol j/k j/k

Laine
 
scalesnthings said:
wow.. do you have any left for sale? o_O And has anyone reproduced this? I think it'd be a fun little side thing.. just to answer questions and have some neat animals.. along with the theme of this thread, couldn't they be called Paradox too? lol j/k j/k

Laine
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I believe I do still have some. I am REALLY behind in getting my babies posted, but I hope to start working on getting them up tomorrow. Oh yeah - I forgot to mention - many of the striped-motleys don't look like striped-motleys either. The came from a striped crossed with a motley, but are pretty normal patterned. They are beautiful, but odd, little ones. Here's a few pics:
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Wow.. I like that second one.. Gotta love Anery.s :) I'll have to see if I can talk John into letting me get a few more babies before we move :) As of right now, I'm completely dreding packing everyone up and moving to TN... I hope we don't lose anyone.. In whatever since of the word.. o_O.. Hmm.. if it wasn't going to be 4 months from now I'd see if you could hold him with a deposit, or even complete payment.. bah, I may be counting my chickens before they've hatched though.. I still have to talk to John.. :) I'll PM you in a few days when he gets back from his trip to Vegas.. hopefully he'll be in a good modd.. lol!

Laine
 
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