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- Thread starter snakegrrl
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Chip
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Hi Rose!
I'm CERTAIN that I'm about to be disagreed with, but I have seen no indication that a cornsnake "enjoys" much of anything! They tolerate handling and other contact, but I don't think there is any evidence that they "enjoy" a tasty mouse, a warm basking spot, or even copulation. They aren't equipt with emotion as we know it.
While that isn't what some folks like to hear, it can make your conscience feel better when you haven't handled it in a week! Seriously, that is one thing that appeals to me most about herps. Granted, a basking turtle looks pretty content, and members of at least one species of snake will come right out of their cages to be handled, but you can't read into it too much!
Merry Christmas!
I'm CERTAIN that I'm about to be disagreed with, but I have seen no indication that a cornsnake "enjoys" much of anything! They tolerate handling and other contact, but I don't think there is any evidence that they "enjoy" a tasty mouse, a warm basking spot, or even copulation. They aren't equipt with emotion as we know it.
While that isn't what some folks like to hear, it can make your conscience feel better when you haven't handled it in a week! Seriously, that is one thing that appeals to me most about herps. Granted, a basking turtle looks pretty content, and members of at least one species of snake will come right out of their cages to be handled, but you can't read into it too much!
Merry Christmas!
snakegrrl
Back from the dead
lol too serious...
Alright alright I know that Mago's brain is about the size of a sunflower seed, but I am a softy at heart... Maybe I should say, do snakes act "upset" if you handle them a lot - if that makes any more sense? But hey, I have dogs is I want undaunted affection... snakes are kewl, and that's enough. I've experienced people other than me pet my snake - I rarely do, even when I am holding him - and it appears rather silly to me; I think it's more of a comfort to them than to the snake.
Alright alright I know that Mago's brain is about the size of a sunflower seed, but I am a softy at heart... Maybe I should say, do snakes act "upset" if you handle them a lot - if that makes any more sense? But hey, I have dogs is I want undaunted affection... snakes are kewl, and that's enough. I've experienced people other than me pet my snake - I rarely do, even when I am holding him - and it appears rather silly to me; I think it's more of a comfort to them than to the snake.
Here in Denmark the generel opinion is that snakes are not pets and should not be handled more than necessary. That means when you're cleaning the viv or when they're out for feeding in a box.
Most people here say that if you want an animal for a pet, then buy a rabbit or a hamster. If you say that you have a pet snake you will be seen as a big idiot in this country.
All in all there's a big difference between the keeping of animals here in Denmark and in the states.
Most people here say that if you want an animal for a pet, then buy a rabbit or a hamster. If you say that you have a pet snake you will be seen as a big idiot in this country.
All in all there's a big difference between the keeping of animals here in Denmark and in the states.
rachel132002
New member
From what I've heard snakes don't have the part of the brain that has 'emotions' like us as in they tolerate or they dont as was said for instance you see on tv rattlesnakes etc filmed and they're calm and all but the second some guy starts messing with them they hiss so I think they just accept being handled or let you know if they don't want it I dunno if anythin has ever been scientifically proven though!?
Rach
Rach
Indyshark
New member
I believe some snakes like being handled. I usually play with my cornsnakes at the same time every night. They hide during the day, and come out to play.
I also have a BCI that seems to like me. If she is out, she will look all over the room for me. If she sees me, she'll try to crawl over to me. She will sit on my arm for hours while I watch a movie if I let her. I am hotblooded, so she might just like the heat, but I prefer to think otherwise. When I talk to her she looks me right in the face and holds still.
I think the Boa is more affectionate than the corns, but they are all fun pets.
I am allergic to cats and dogs, so I don't feel bad or weird about having snakes as pets. I have found them to be gentle and pleasant creatures even though I have been bit three times.
The first time was my fault. I stuck my hand in the cage to move y Boa, Slinky so she could see the mouse and she thought I was the mouse. (boom!) The second time she was still hungry and nailed my hand as I reached in to pick her up. I have since learned to tell when she's still hungry and pick her up with a blanket instead of tasty hand or finger! LOL
The third time was by my ghost corn. I was playing with her and she made a move to crawl under the bed. I grabbed her before she could get away and she turned and bit me. She was a hatchling and if I had not been watching her, I would not have realized that she bit me. I laughed at her pathetic attempt and offered her my finger for another try.
I also have a BCI that seems to like me. If she is out, she will look all over the room for me. If she sees me, she'll try to crawl over to me. She will sit on my arm for hours while I watch a movie if I let her. I am hotblooded, so she might just like the heat, but I prefer to think otherwise. When I talk to her she looks me right in the face and holds still.
I think the Boa is more affectionate than the corns, but they are all fun pets.
I am allergic to cats and dogs, so I don't feel bad or weird about having snakes as pets. I have found them to be gentle and pleasant creatures even though I have been bit three times.
The first time was my fault. I stuck my hand in the cage to move y Boa, Slinky so she could see the mouse and she thought I was the mouse. (boom!) The second time she was still hungry and nailed my hand as I reached in to pick her up. I have since learned to tell when she's still hungry and pick her up with a blanket instead of tasty hand or finger! LOL
The third time was by my ghost corn. I was playing with her and she made a move to crawl under the bed. I grabbed her before she could get away and she turned and bit me. She was a hatchling and if I had not been watching her, I would not have realized that she bit me. I laughed at her pathetic attempt and offered her my finger for another try.
Silverwind
New member
Actually, my new snake quite likes relaxing in the back of my hooded sweatshirts. However, I do believe that if handled too much they get very much annoyed.
IndianaCorn
New member
Elrojo...
"Granted, a basking turtle looks pretty content, and members of at least one species of snake will come right out of their cages to be handled, but you can't read into it too much!"
I'm curious as to what species of snake you are referring to here?
"Granted, a basking turtle looks pretty content, and members of at least one species of snake will come right out of their cages to be handled, but you can't read into it too much!"
I'm curious as to what species of snake you are referring to here?
Julie F
New member
hmmmm
speakin of which my snakes are all out looking for food!
any way it's not the size of the brain that matters, it how well devopled it is. most of snake brain is dedicated to olfactory glands, but it has been proven that corn snakes do see in color and have a learning capability, even if it's onyl short term memory.
However my big normal female does get agitated from time to time and vibrates her tail. is that an emotion? it's hard to say.
speakin of which my snakes are all out looking for food!
any way it's not the size of the brain that matters, it how well devopled it is. most of snake brain is dedicated to olfactory glands, but it has been proven that corn snakes do see in color and have a learning capability, even if it's onyl short term memory.
However my big normal female does get agitated from time to time and vibrates her tail. is that an emotion? it's hard to say.
Chip
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Indicorn
I was refering to Indigos, they're federally protected, so pretty hard to come by, and they are big and messy... But fun! Also Black milks and some pituophis that are handled a lot will crawl into your arms if you hold very still (be the branch, Daniel-san), but nearly every snake alive would rather be left alone than handled. The indigo does have an odd curiosity about it, though... Actually a lot of more aggressive snakes seem to possess this (king cobras, racers, asian ratsnakes and so forth).
I was refering to Indigos, they're federally protected, so pretty hard to come by, and they are big and messy... But fun! Also Black milks and some pituophis that are handled a lot will crawl into your arms if you hold very still (be the branch, Daniel-san), but nearly every snake alive would rather be left alone than handled. The indigo does have an odd curiosity about it, though... Actually a lot of more aggressive snakes seem to possess this (king cobras, racers, asian ratsnakes and so forth).
greymaiden
Love and Hisses
Empathic Snakes
Though I haven't had this experience with my cornsnake, I've found boas to be fairly empathic snakes who seem to like human contact. I often joke that boas are the most cuddly of snakes
Scientifically speaking, snakes are cold blooded and much of their perceptual system is based on scent. This makes them very sensitive to human emotional states. (Did you know you smell different when you're angry?) It is my experience with boas that they tend to "sync" with me and mirror the way that I feel.
Then again, maybe I have an overactive imagination.
Like I said, I haven't experienced this with my cornsnake yet, though he does seem to do his very best to burrow in my hair whenever he gets the chance, but that may just be his natural inclination to burrow and hide.
Either way, whether they technically like it or not, snakes are tamer as adults if you handle them at least 3 times a week. I handle mine everyday except the two after he eats. Handling an animal that's still digesting can cause them to regurge, which is not a pretty thing.
Jamie Lynn
Though I haven't had this experience with my cornsnake, I've found boas to be fairly empathic snakes who seem to like human contact. I often joke that boas are the most cuddly of snakes
Scientifically speaking, snakes are cold blooded and much of their perceptual system is based on scent. This makes them very sensitive to human emotional states. (Did you know you smell different when you're angry?) It is my experience with boas that they tend to "sync" with me and mirror the way that I feel.
Then again, maybe I have an overactive imagination.
Like I said, I haven't experienced this with my cornsnake yet, though he does seem to do his very best to burrow in my hair whenever he gets the chance, but that may just be his natural inclination to burrow and hide.
Either way, whether they technically like it or not, snakes are tamer as adults if you handle them at least 3 times a week. I handle mine everyday except the two after he eats. Handling an animal that's still digesting can cause them to regurge, which is not a pretty thing.
Jamie Lynn
Darin Chappell
Very Senior Hillbilly
It is my opinion that the reason we see more of these "my snake likes to be petted" accounts during the winter is for three main reasons:
1. The newer owners of corns were probably more likely to have gotten a hatchling at first, and their babies are now finally calming down enough to be held easily
2. Because it is winter, there is less outdoor activity and we all tend to handle our snakes more often
and/or
3. Because it is winter, snakes of all types tend to want to stay on a warm spot in the middle of a relatively cooler room (Say, a 98.6F arm in the middle of a 75F living room, perhaps?)
Maybe it's just coincidnetal that these posts tend to occur more frequently in the winter months than at other times of the year, but that has been my perception, anyway. If it is accurate, I would suspect that any, or all, of the above reasons may have more to do with the "cuddle factor" of your snake than any emotional attachment you might suppose he has for you.
Just a thought ...
1. The newer owners of corns were probably more likely to have gotten a hatchling at first, and their babies are now finally calming down enough to be held easily
2. Because it is winter, there is less outdoor activity and we all tend to handle our snakes more often
and/or
3. Because it is winter, snakes of all types tend to want to stay on a warm spot in the middle of a relatively cooler room (Say, a 98.6F arm in the middle of a 75F living room, perhaps?)
Maybe it's just coincidnetal that these posts tend to occur more frequently in the winter months than at other times of the year, but that has been my perception, anyway. If it is accurate, I would suspect that any, or all, of the above reasons may have more to do with the "cuddle factor" of your snake than any emotional attachment you might suppose he has for you.
Just a thought ...