pewter?

[The_evil]

Hi everybody!

I just got a little pewtermale home from Hamm.
Called "whitesided" but I dont know anything about the genetics and it seems like he has lost a lot of the white markings (comparing to the pic I've seen on him)..unfortunately..

Do anyone have some info about the "whitesided- phenomenon"?
Do the white markings go away with time?
What is a "whitesided"? etc etc.

And also;
I've never seen a pewter with yellow markings (like anerys can have).. Can and do pewters get some yellow markings?
(I've always thought that anerys can get some yellow but charcoals can not, am I wrong?)

Thanks for helping!
Really appreciate it!

And here is some pics on the little one..
Showing the yellow markings and the white markings..

 

[djfreebase]

Iv no idea about "whitesided" but he is lovely. And im sure iv seen Anery B, with yellow?

 

[Roy Munson]

Pewters can develop yellow, but that doesn't look like a pewter to me. It looks like an AneryA-bloodred. There is more contrast between the pupil and iris than you'd see in a pewter.

I've also never seen the term "white-sided" associated with pewters, but I've seen it used for highly-diffused, quality AneryA-bloodreds, which is what I think you have.

For a comparison, here's a pic of a dark pewter and a nice AneryA-bloodred.

 

[Talinea]

Hi!
As already said, I would think this is an Anery A Diffused (aka Anery Blood aka Pepper aka Granite, depends on who and where you ask ).
Pewters normally have much darker irises, and although there seem to be Charcoals that show yellow, in combination with the light eye-color I would say this is Anery A.

The white sides show the effect of the diffusion, very strong in this age, so have my congratulations for your nice Diffused



Somewhere in the Gallery there are pics of a Hypo-Pewter showing rich amounts of yellow on head and neck, one of the newest threads...

 

[Jessicat]

A member here had a clutch of White sided Granites a few years ago. Here's a link to a picture progression thread of them. Unfortunately I don't think it's updated very often, but it will give you a bit more information than what you already have.

You could also talk to Michelle (the breeder) about her experience with the white sided granites. I think most of them kept their white sides. There is debate over if this is the Pied gene or extreme diffusion.
http://cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40550

 

[The_evil]

I believe its diffusion offcourse, not pied.
He is very dark for being an aneryblood I think, arent they usually a bit brighter?
The lower half of his body is very dark..

I dont believe its a pewter either. I've been thinking about the eyes aswell but I wasnt sure..

Thanks for clearing things out for me

I will contact michelle again (already spoke to her before I got this one home)..

Do anyone know what is usually paid for a aneryblood?
Just want to know if I paid to much for him...
Obviusly I paid for a snake a didnt get but I will contact the breeder and see what he says about that..

 

[RavenSpirit360]

I hope everything turns out ok for you, he is one gorgeous snake though..

 

[The_evil]

Found this old thread..

Anyway, turns out he was a granite!
found out when paired to a pewter and got no pewter, only bloods and granites.. Haha
It doesnt always go as planned!

Here is a pic of him today, and also a pic of some babies that came out!

 

[Medevil_Nuke]

Oh its good to hear you figured it out! He didn't seem to have that pewter look to me when I first saw the pic anyway.

 

[adsclarke]

Hi,

You say you paired to a pewter and got granites. I've just been looking through this thread and thought that your original snake looks a little like he was homozygous anery, charcoal and diffused.

If you got all granites out then both must be Anery.

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[The_evil]

as I wrote;
Anyway, turns out he was a granite!
found out when paired to a pewter and got no pewter, only bloods and granites.. Haha
It doesnt always go as planned!

if he was choarcoal I would get some pewters atleast..

So both cant be granites cause I got regular bloods aswell as granites

 

[Drizzt80]

So both cant be granites cause I got regular bloods aswell as granites

. . . and your Pewter is het Anery.

Congrats on finding out the genetics. Maybe not so much on him not being what you purchased, BUT he is one gorgeous Granite that's for sure.

D80

 

[The_evil]

Yes offcourse, she is het anery

It doesnt always go as planned but its ok! Fun with some diffrent sorts in the clutch..
Great that atleast 1 got some nice diffused white sideds! Thats what I wanted!