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I decided its time to get started in this fun hobby, Well fun I hope. I picked up a pair of cornsnakes, but I'm just learning but, could anyone tell me what morph's these are. I thought they were just beautiful. I'm wanting to breed different morphs later on. I have to get some knowledge on them first and try to understand the cross-breeding for this or this if you breed these two together ??????. Sorry for the newbe dialog.

John
 
Hello,
Thank you, I was wondering about the first pic if it was a amel or albino. It does have read eyes though, but I'm not sure which???? The second one I thought was a snow. He or she is beautiful, I couldnt resist. What would be a morph combo using the snow that I have being either male or female with what??? Just for curiosity.

John
 
I agree with Dave. The first pic is the amel. Amels are red and white, usually, I think. They lack black (and yellow?) pigment. The snow is the bottom, they're white. Yours has a lot of pink, maybe a bubblegum snow?

Gaah! It's hard to type with a band-aid on my pinkie!
 
Thank you, I'll mark it up as a amel and the other a possible bubblegum snow. This aught to be interesting. Thank you again. Any others want to take a poke at it??????

John
 
I am assuming that you bought these from a pet store since you don't know their morphs or sex. If you'd like to determine their sex, you can have them probed by a herp vet.

Amels are lacking the black pigment, so they will show reds, whites, and yellows.

The other is a snow. All snow hatchlings are pink like that, but the pink usually fades out as they shed. Snows are lacking both the red and black pigments, and will often end up as white adults with yellow across the sides.

If you breed these two together, and the amel isn't het for anery (black "albino" or lacking the red pigment), you will get 100% amels het for anery.

If the amel is het anery, you will end up with 50% snows, and 50% amels het anery.

I currently have a now and a normal het snow. Together, they will produce 25% normal het snow, 25% amel het anery, 25% anery het amel, and 25% snow.

Hope this helps.
 
Snakes are solitary critters that prefer to be alone. Keeping more than one could result in many problems.

1. Stress. Even if you see your snakes curled up together in a hide, this doesn't mean they like eachother...it just means the hide provides the conditions (heat, space) they are looking for.

2. Disease. Keeping more than one snake together promotes the spread of disease. If you have one snake per enclosure, perhaps only one will get snake mites, instead of spreading to all of your snakes. Maybe your humidity is to high in a particular tank. Instead of ricking a respiratory infection in just the one snake in the tank, you now potentially have 2 snakes with a RI.

3. Regurgitation. If one snake regurgitates, you will not know which snake it was. It is important to track all regurgitations, and wait 10 days before you attempt to feed again.

4. Shedding. Like the regurge, you won't know who shed.

5. Egg binding. I see that you'd like to breed your snakes someday. Females optimally follow the rule of 3s. 3 years old, 3 feet long, and 300 grams. If your female is too small, you risk her getting egg-bound. This basically means that the eggs get stuck inside, and she will die if she doesn't see a vet right away. This is a HUGE risk to take.

If they are in a large tank (40 + gallons) you can get a divider to separate them in the tank. If your tank is a 10-20 gallon, this is good for only one snake. An adult corn would be comfortable in a 20 gallon long (breeder) tank. Pick up an extra tank if yours isn't 40+ gallons. I'd say check out the salvation army/ goodwill stores. The ones in my area often have tanks for sale.

Check out the FAQ stickied at the top of this sub-forum for TONS of helpful info. Good luck!
 
Thank you for all your information, I will devide them into seperate tanks tommorrow morning. Right now they are in 10 gal glass tanks, which I will be buying 20 gal longs in this next week. Where is a good place to buy these snakes? I'm looking for a charcoal black one. I dont know all the names yet :shrugs: but It will take time. Do you recommend anyone that I can email or visit there sight to order from?

Thank you
John
 
Yep, a 20 gallon long tank for each snake would be perfect. I notice that you are from Illinois...which part? I am only asking because it appears as if you are using a heat lamp. Is this the only source of heat for the tank? If so, you will want to invest in a under tank heater (UTH) to provide the belly heat that corn snakes need. I personally use both a UTH and a heat lamp because I live in northern Illinois and my snakes are in the basement. This equal a cold room that can't keep the "cool" side of the snake tanks warm enough.

I personally went through South Mountain Reptile for my snakes, but there are so many breeders right here on this forum. Check out the "Corn Snakes for Sale" sub forum, or look at a contributers ( the folks with the silver medallions) signature area for a link to their websites.
 
Springfield IL is where Im from. I will invest in a uth this week. I was looking at them today. I would like to find someone close to me so I can save on shipping if there are any around close to me that wouldnt mind meeting, or somewhere I could drive within 100 miles.
Thanks
John
 
Look into reptile expos in/near your area. You can often buy a breeder-quality snake and not have to ship.

For me, it was well worth the shipping costs. Before shipping, I basically bought two snakes for the price of one in town (PetCo and a mom and pop both sell for about $50-60...don't even get me started on PetLand prices). After shipping, I paid less than $95 for two snakes...AND I know their genetic background, their sex, health, and that they are not problem feeders. Worth every penny for shipping, in my opinion.
 
I do not think your snow is a bubblegum. It looks like a regular snow to me. I agree that the first one is an amel.

The term albino is not correct because your snake is not lacking ALL pigments.
 
Welcome to the forum and to the wonderful world of Corn snakes!! :cheers: Definitely an Amel and a snow...hope they are a pair! :) They are really lovely!

Oh don't get me STARTED on Petshop prices for corns! I got my very first corn (sold to me as a normal) at a petshop and the guy saw me coming a mile away!! :rolleyes: I paid 4 times what a breeder would've asked! :eek1:

I saw and anery hatchling for sale at a petshop the other day for R400 (that's about $57US I think...give or take a little!), they should go for about R150 ($21US) here (if not less)...

Oh well, fool me once... :crazy02:
 
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