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Politics - They Play With People's Lives

Agreed! I work with a few of those... :cheers:



The reason for the spending is debatable. Perhaps we need a breakdown of all the spending to see where the money is mostly going. Without that, I can only guess most of it is going to fight 2 wars?

Let's not forget that inflation plays a big role on your last sentence. People can't live with the same amount of money they could 50 years ago, not to mention 220. Everything costs a lot more money nowadays. Perhaps we should use the inflation index to calculate and compare the numbers, taking also into consideration population and economic growth (GDP). That could be a true measurement of spending.

And let's also not forget Nancy Pelosi started during the Bush administration, and after that, the economy sunk big time. A lot of money was/is being spent in an attempt to jump-start the economy back to life (bailouts, stimulus, etc.).
Got it! It's Bush and inflation. Did Dr. Maddow say that?

Couldn't have anything to do with big gov and their tax and spend philosophy?!?!

BTW I am in noway absolving Bush. He is no doubt a contributor. But it's an absolute joke when the left points that finger for all the woes.
 
Not Dr. Maddow, otherwise you'd have a video clip of her saying so... ;)

BTW, I'm not saying it is not the left's big gov's fault either... What I am saying is that the right claims to want small gov and spending while they support extraordinarily expensive wars and tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of the US taxpayers. Their tax and spending philosophy simply doesn't add up.
 
... BTW, I'm not saying it is not the left's big gov's fault either... What I am saying is that the right claims to want small gov and spending while they support extraordinarily expensive wars ...
I thought the wars were over two years ago. I guess one can only hope for change not actually get change!
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-02-17/...an-troop-increase-troop-levels?_s=PM:POLITICS

... and tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of the US taxpayers. ...
You mean allowing US citizens to actually keep their own money. The top 10% already pay 73% of the total income taxes collected. How much do you think should be their fair share? All of it? According to the IRS about 50% of Americans paid no income tax after credits and deductions. Maybe the top 2% should pay it all?!?! Better yet we should increase more social services so they can pay the rest of us profit sharing checks for just being citizens. Forced redistribution of wealth through social services. Tax the rich more to give it to the social programs feeding the drive toward American Socialism. :shrugs:
 
I wonder if that is a matter of civic responsibility. :rolleyes:

Read on...

Tax cuts enacted in the past decade have been generous to wealthy taxpayers, too, making them a target for President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress. Less noticed were tax cuts for low- and middle-income families, which were expanded when Obama signed the massive economic recovery package last year.
The result is a tax system that exempts almost half the country from paying for programs that benefit everyone, including national defense, public safety, infrastructure and education. It is a system in which the top 10 percent of earners -- households making an average of $366,400 in 2006 -- paid about 73 percent of the income taxes collected by the federal government.

The federal income tax is the government's largest source of revenue, raising more than $900 billion—or a little less than half of all government receipts—in the budget year that ended last Sept. 30.

And here is where most of us agree, neither left or right wants what is best for Americans, they just want what it best for their careers/parties.
The government could provide the same benefits through spending programs, with the same effect on the federal budget, Williams said. But it sounds better for politicians to say they cut taxes rather than they started a new spending program, he added.

Source: http://www.cnbc.com/id/36241249/Nearly_Half_of_US_Households_Escape_Fed_Income_Tax
 
Starting fewer SPENDING programs sounds best to me. From a simplistic point of view... When I have less money I simply spend less. If your weekly paycheck is $100 you cannot continually borrow $150 a week and pay back $60 and hope all is well and change is coming. The gov needs more common sense NOT more SPENDING programs.
 
Also, this ones:
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http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

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http://zfacts.com/p/1195.html

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And oh, btw... for those GOP Reagan lovers, the 2010 budget is the higest deficit spending since Reagan (as a percentage of GDP)

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201002090003
 
I think the problum is now days it really just about doesnt matter who you vote for, 99% of them could care less about the public. Most of them have there own agenda and could care less what you or me want. Its no longer "Of the people, for the people" its "Screw the people, take there money and rights when and how we can".

Sorry just how I feel about it. I try to keep out of political arguements but This is how I feel.
 
I think the problum is now days it really just about doesnt matter who you vote for, 99% of them could care less about the public. Most of them have there own agenda and could care less what you or me want. Its no longer "Of the people, for the people" its "Screw the people, take there money and rights when and how we can".

Sorry just how I feel about it. I try to keep out of political arguements but This is how I feel.
Simply stated but yet profound!
 
We all know that politicians hope to withhold their positions in the gov as long as possible, appearing to be doing the best job they can.
We all know the reality is that they keep pushing problems to their successors.

Now, talking about the national debt and political parties (big vs. small gov), take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms
big vs small gov and national debt are apples and oranges. IMO the size of gov has to do with what the gov wants control of. Big gov = less freedoms and rights(ie Healthcare, gun control, SS, Medicare, war on drugs, same sex marriage). Small gov = more liberty(ie only what powers are granted by the constitution not spun from the abuse of the commerce clause). IMO debt is simply the balance of taxing and spending. One can obviously affect the other but still apples and oranges.

Both parties spend unwisely IMO. National debt is a combination of out and in but not always what you expect. There has to be a balance in taxing and spending. If the balance is not right then the debt is affected. Lowering taxes without lower spending (ie GWB and two wars another topic) increases debt. Lower taxes and controlling spending (ie Clinton and GOP congress after the 1997 tax cuts) reduces debt and spurs the economy forward. As a side note the balanced budget during the Clinton years did not occur under Clinton, a dem congress and tax increases at the start of his presidency. The balanced budget occurred under Clinton, a rep congress and tax cuts in the latter part of his presidency. Lower taxes and increased spending (ie BO and dem congress with super majority in 19 months) increases debt exponentially.

Economic growth has been tied to tax cuts in American history (Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton). For debt to follow, spending cuts are needed also. The yo-yo effect of party philosophy swings wreak havoc on a stable economy. This is exacerbated when one party or the other has too much control (ie BO's first two years)

Raising taxes is historically shown to increase revenue only in the short term. In extended terms tax increases usually spurn the economy into reduced revenue and recession.

I fixed your chart for you too! I had to shrink it to fit the blue bar on it. In case you can't read the last column it says Barrack Obama .. 19 months. And at the top says $2526.
 

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I agree with you Allalaskan. I said something similar on post #64 and added something else on post #66.

TSST, funny how I didn't have to fix any of the 3 graphs to support my point. I also provided a link for reading material (wikipedia).

All I tried to do was to show how Reps tend to increase the national debt while Dems tend to decrease it. In president Obama's case, he got a country in a deep depression (comparable to the 30's one), so he obviously has to do something to try to fix it. He has hundreds of advisers telling him what could be the best way to act.

The blue bar you added to the graph may be right. What may be wrong is to blame the president for trying to fix a deeply troubled economy. Give the guy at least until the end of his term(s).
 
... TSST, funny how I didn't have to fix any of the 3 graphs to support my point. I also provided a link for reading material (wikipedia).
No you didn't but but leaving it incomplete sure did help with the illusion. I will be honest many of the links I just browse. If you would like a dozen or so random links on the DC folk I can search for some for you. :shrugs:

... The blue bar you added to the graph may be right. What may be wrong is to blame the president for trying to fix a deeply troubled economy. Give the guy at least until the end of his term(s).
The blue bar is spot on according the the Congressional Budget Office and the US Treasury Dept. I blame them ALL including BO, not just one man. As far as give him (them) more time to spend that scares the heck out of me.

... All I tried to do was to show how Reps tend to increase the national debt while Dems tend to decrease it. In president Obama's case, he got a country in a deep depression (comparable to the 30's one), so he obviously has to do something to try to fix it. He has hundreds of advisers telling him what could be the best way to act....
All I tried to do was show your graphs do not accurately depict whether the cause was reps or dems (personally I think it's both). It only showed who was in the oval office at the time of the occurrence. As I pointed out, for an example, the glory of the Clinton years had just as much or more to do with the rep congress and tax cuts as to do with Bill. As far as the recession, we have differing philosophic outlooks. I just don't see borrowing from our grandchildren's grandchildren via China and spending like there is no tomorrow as a remotely viable way out of it.

And on top of that the constant bombardment at our liberty by the DC cronies is appalling. I don't need some real worldly daft DC-ite telling me whom I can love, what gun I can't buy, or what health coverage I must purchase! IMHO we are awfully close to the tyranny our forefathers fled and died freeing us from.
 
No you didn't but but leaving it incomplete sure did help with the illusion. I will be honest many of the links I just browse. If you would like a dozen or so random links on the DC folk I can search for some for you. :shrugs:

I left incomplete because his term is still incomplete... I thought that was logical. And sure, please add to our knowledge. Please send me some informational links with contrary supported information (not fear mongering or numbers pulled out of someone's scared heads).

The blue bar is spot on according the the Congressional Budget Office and the US Treasury Dept. I blame them ALL including BO, not just one man. As far as give him (them) more time to spend that scares the heck out of me.

Well, there is not much you and I can do about that, is there?
 
I left incomplete because his term is still incomplete... I thought that was logical. And sure, please add to our knowledge. Please send me some informational links with contrary supported information (not fear mongering or numbers pulled out of someone's scared heads). ...
How about simple facts.

During the Reagan years one or both houses of congress were controlled by dems. During Bush Sr years both houses controlled by dems. First two years of Clinton term (highest debt years) both houses controlled by dems. Last six years of Clinton (steady decline in debt to balanced budget) both houses controlled by reps. 2008 spike during Bush W years both houses controlled by dems. First two years of Obama both houses controlled by dems.

The picture gets a little muddy doesn't it. Not the pretty clean blame game that your graph would fallaciously imply.

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1) Not MY graph(s) (unlike you, I haven't modified the graph and I posted my sources)
2) Wikipedia has a clear dissection of the deficit by President, the House and the Senate (I am not trying to make people believe in what I say by presenting "simple facts" expecting I'll be listened to).
3) Reagan had a Republican Senate when he increased the deficit by 11.3%
4) George W. Bush had a Republican House when he increased the deficit by 7.1%

We can plan this game all day. The truth is that...
big government
(aka Dems)
with their tax and spending philosophy
... saved car companies that employ thousands, etc. They are spending in an attempt to improve the economy. Will it work? Who knows... Like I said on post #73
there is not much you and I can do about that, is there?

PS: I am eager to see the links you mentioned on post # 72.
 
1) Not MY graph(s) (unlike you, I haven't modified the graph and I posted my sources)
2) Wikipedia has a clear dissection of the deficit by President, the House and the Senate (I am not trying to make people believe in what I say by presenting "simple facts" expecting I'll be listened to).
3) Reagan had a Republican Senate when he increased the deficit by 11.3%
4) George W. Bush had a Republican House when he increased the deficit by 7.1%

We can plan this game all day. The truth is that... (aka Dems) ... saved car companies that employ thousands, etc. They are spending in an attempt to improve the economy. Will it work? Who knows... Like I said on post #73

PS: I am eager to see the links you mentioned on post # 72.
1. No YOU only chose the graph whose clear intent was to blame one party for the deficit. The "modified" part was absolutely as factual as the original portion. But then having that big blue bar(that is 2 1/2 times any other bar on the graph) doesn't help to paint the fallacy intended by the original author. My sources were also posted. If you missed post#72 the info came from the Congressional Budget Office and the US Treasury.
2. Really do you think I lied about what party was in control? I don't expect anyone to believe in what I say. Nor do I expect anyone to listen to me. In fact I would hope everyone would learn and decide for themselves.
3. Reagan had a Democrat house when they increased the deficit by 11.3%. He had a Democrat House and split Senate when they increased the deficit by 9.3%.
4. George W. Bush had a Democrat Senate when they increased the deficit by 7.1%. He had a Democrat house and Senate when they increased the deficit by 15%
5. Bill Clinton had a Republican House and Senate when they reduced the deficit by 9%.

Not sure what game you're planning? The truth is that they spent billions of dollars of our money to bailout problems they themselves created. Call me cynical but I don't believe for a second they cared about those workers. They did it for votes. Case in point their actions have lost far far far more jobs to outsourcing than they saved by abusing the commerce clause to invest in private business. Please don't attempt to paint any of them as saviors nothing could be more laughable.

PS - the links will come as I get time to search, got plans starting tomorrow so it may be next week. Be patient!

PSS - I could really care less which side of the isle caused debt or erased debt. I only rebut your posts negatively against Dems to help you avoid wearing the blue donkey blinders that your 'nut job idol Dr. Maddow'(your words) so vehemently crusades for them in. :grin01:
 
1. No YOU only chose the graph whose clear intent was to blame one party for the deficit.

No, I chose A FEW (not one) graphs that showed up on my Google search "deficit by president"

The "modified" part was absolutely as factual as the original portion. But then having that big blue bar(that is 2 1/2 times any other bar on the graph) doesn't help to paint the fallacy intended by the original author. My sources were also posted. If you missed post#72 the info came from the Congressional Budget Office and the US Treasury.

I usually post direct links... "From the Washington Post" as a source doesn't help much, does it?
And just to be clear, I am not saying the modification you made on the graph is wrong, although I haven't had the time to research the sources you provided for that information.

2. Really do you think I lied about what party was in control? I don't expect anyone to believe in what I say. Nor do I expect anyone to listen to me. In fact I would hope everyone would learn and decide for themselves.

My #2 was not meant to antagonize you. What I meant was to show that I never had the intention to mislead people, and that the sources I provided can be checked.

3. Reagan had a Democrat house when they increased the deficit by 11.3%. He had a Democrat House and split Senate when they increased the deficit by 9.3%.
4. George W. Bush had a Democrat Senate when they increased the deficit by 7.1%. He had a Democrat house and Senate when they increased the deficit by 15%
5. Bill Clinton had a Republican House and Senate when they reduced the deficit by 9%.
Not sure what game you're planning?

That is exactly the game I was referring to... You say tomato (/təˈmɑːtoʊ/) and I say tomato (/təˈmeɪtoʊ/).

The truth is that they spent billions of dollars of our money to bailout problems they themselves created. Call me cynical but I don't believe for a second they cared about those workers. They did it for votes. Case in point their actions have lost far far far more jobs to outsourcing than they saved by abusing the commerce clause to invest in private business. Please don't attempt to paint any of them as saviors nothing could be more laughable.

I completely agree, but don't attempt to paint Dems as big spenders who are making OUR situation even worse.

PS - the links will come as I get time to search, got plans starting tomorrow so it may be next week. Be patient!

No problem... I just thought you had them handy by the way you offered them in your reply.

PSS - I could really care less which side of the isle caused debt or erased debt. I only rebut your posts negatively against Dems to help you avoid wearing the blue donkey blinders that your 'nut job idol Dr. Maddow'(your words) so vehemently crusades for them in. :grin01:

Although my nut job idol Dr. Rachel Maddow MAY wear blue donkey blinders (IYO), I am not so naive, nor do I have a job who MAY pay me to do so.

IMO, Dr. Maddow will rattle either party's cages (not so much a blue donkey blinded woman, although indeed very far left):

http://hoofin.wordpress.com/2009/08...ow-slams-obama-and-congress-on-health-reform/

http://www.politicususa.com/en/maddow-dems-pair
 
Based on this graph (outdated):

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate

Do you agree with this?

Reform and the Filibuster
Published: January 2, 2011

The new Senate will face one of its most momentous decisions in its opening hours on Wednesday: a vote on whether to change its rules to prohibit the widespread abuse of the filibuster. Americans are fed up with Washington gridlock. The Senate should seize the opportunity.

A filibuster — the catchall term for delaying or blocking a majority vote on a bill by lengthy debate or other procedures — remains a valuable tool for ensuring that a minority of senators cannot be steamrollered into silence. No one is talking about ending the practice.

Every returning Democratic senator, though, has signed a letter demanding an end to the almost automatic way the filibuster has been used in recent years. By simply raising an anonymous objection, senators can trigger a 60-vote supermajority for virtually every piece of legislation. The time has come to make senators work for their filibusters, and justify them to the public.

Critics will say that it is self-serving for Democrats to propose these reforms now, when they face a larger and more restive Republican minority. The facts of the growing procedural abuse are clearly on their side. In the last two Congressional terms, Republicans have brought 275 filibusters that Democrats have been forced to try to break. That is by far the highest number in Congressional history, and more than twice the amount in the previous two terms.

These filibusters are the reason there was no budget passed this year, and why as many as 125 nominees to executive branch positions and 48 judicial nominations were never brought to a vote. They have produced public policy that we strongly opposed, most recently preserving the tax cuts for the rich, but even bipartisan measures like the food safety bill are routinely filibustered and delayed.

The key is to find a way to ensure that any minority party — and the Democrats could find themselves there again — has leverage in the Senate without grinding every bill to an automatic halt. The most thoughtful proposal to do so was developed by Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon, along with Tom Udall of New Mexico and a few other freshmen. It would make these major changes:

NO LAZY FILIBUSTERS At least 10 senators would have to file a filibuster petition, and members would have to speak continuously on the floor to keep the filibuster going. To ensure the seriousness of the attempt, the requirements would grow each day: five senators would have to hold the floor for the first day, 10 the second day, etc. Those conducting the filibuster would thus have to make their case on camera. (A cloture vote of 60 senators would still be required to break the blockade.)

FEWER BITES OF THE APPLE
Republicans now routinely filibuster not only the final vote on a bill, but the initial motion to even debate it, as well as amendments and votes on conference committees. Breaking each of these filibusters adds days or weeks to every bill. The plan would limit filibusters to the actual passage of a bill.

MINORITY AMENDMENTS
Harry Reid, the majority leader, frequently prevents Republicans from offering amendments because he fears they will lead to more opportunities to filibuster. Republicans say they mount filibusters because they are precluded from offering amendments. This situation would be resolved by allowing a fixed number of amendments from each side on a bill, followed by a fixed amount of debate on each one.

Changing these rules could be done by a simple majority of senators, but only on the first day of the session. Republicans have said that ramming through such a measure would reduce what little comity remains in the chamber.

Nonetheless, the fear of such a vote has led Republican leaders to negotiate privately with Democrats in search of a compromise, possibly on amendments. Any plan that does not require filibustering senators to hold the floor and make their case to the public would fall short. The Senate has been crippled long enough.
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/03/opinion/03mon1.html

IMHO, it is time to stop obstructionism, either by changing the filibuster rules, or by any other necessary ways.
 
News from Today

Following up on the filibuster reform:

Senate Dems Introduce Rules Reform Package: Keep Filibuster But Make It Old School

The handful of Senate Democrats proposing to overhaul the upper chamber's rules and procedures released their roadmap Wednesday morning, but conspicuously missing from the package was an attempt to reduce the number of senators required to end a filibuster.

While the four-page resolution would change the way the Senate considers legislation and nominations, 41 determined members of the minority would still have the ability to block Senate action.

The package does, however, include a reform that would tilt the balance of power toward the majority: Senators must actually be speaking on the Senate floor in order to keep the filibuster alive. If objecting senators finish speaking, the filibuster would end and the blocked bill in question would move to a final vote.

The rules-reform package, introduced by Sens. Tom Udall (D-N.M.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), is slated to be discussed on the floor later Wednesday. It is, as one aide put it, "the culmination of discussions going on for months and months and months."

In terms of its reach, the proposal is both logical and constrained. It calls for the elimination of secret holds on nominees and for reforms to the amendment process so that majority and minority leaders are allowed no more than three amendments that "have been timely filed ... and are germane to the matter being amended." The latter provision may seem like an effort to woo bipartisan support, but a top Republican aide said the GOP objects because it would limit the power that senators have traditionally had to introduce any amendment to any bill.

The reform package also would allow for a shorter, two-hour window for debating a motion to proceed to legislation, which would make it impossible to filibuster the motion to move to debate a bill. Should the minority party filibuster any bill, it would require that those doing the filibustering provide a reason for doing so.

For those who argue that the filibuster should be ended entirely, or at least reduced from its 60-vote threshold, the package falls short. Democratic lawmakers had been debating making alterations to that provision for months now, but during negotiations with leadership their vision was pared back.

Members were reportedly concerned about the vote count. On Wednesday morning, Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) proclaimed that the "last thing" the Senate needed to do "is start changing rules, with 51 votes and simple majority, and make the Senate a smaller version of the House."

Mainly, however, there was worry throughout the party that they could end up in the minority in the near future.

"I'm not in favor of getting rid of the filibuster," former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said on Wednesday morning during a breakfast organized by the Christian Science Monitor. "I do think there is an argument to be made for minority party having some say. The filibuster has been so badly abused though. And it gets abused cyclically that is the Democrats abused it, the Republicans were worse, Democrats came back and we were worse then they were. Now they are even worse."

Dean argued in favor of abolishing secret holds, and for some reform of the filibuster. "Whatever reforms they do will be positive," he added, but cautioned, "Republicans are right when they make the point that we might not like the results of [getting rid of the filibuster]."

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...-rules-reform-filibuster-intact_n_804747.html
 
PS - the links will come as I get time to search, got plans starting tomorrow so it may be next week. Be patient!

Just wanted to follow up on this. :shrugs:

And it would be a waste not to post some text I find interesting:

PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY, SPIN AND THE POWER OF WORDS

01/13/11-by L.S. Carbonell
Last night, Gov. Tim Pawlenty ducked Jon Stewart’s very simple question – if the conservatives are really concerned about what Pawlenty characterized as “the incremental expansion of Federal power,” why weren’t they opposed to the blatant expansion of Federal powers during the Bush administration?

Simple question, right? Here’s a few more: Why weren’t conservatives concerned when Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush each signed an executive order giving internal surveillance authority to the C.I.A.? Why didn’t they applaud when Presidents Carter and Clinton rescinded that power? President Obama was denied that simple method of restoring our freedoms by the passage of the Patriot Act which went so far beyond C.I.A. internal surveillance as to amount to creating a police state in which we were fearful of using our electronic communication methods. Why didn’t conservatives recognize in the 291 executive orders issued by Bush to bypass Congress on such issues as illegal torture and the over 100 signing statements by Bush that voided rightfully passed laws that he was our third “constitutional dictator”? Abraham Lincoln used executive orders in the early days of the Civil War rather than wait on Congress to slowly pass bills that authorized response to the insurgency in the South. Franklin Delano Roosevelt used them to start the programs that took us out of the Great Depression because he knew the Congress would not support them. Though Roosevelt’s method of creating those programs was later judged to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, the programs themselves weren’t and they are the same programs people are calling for today. Bush’s actions were, both by American and international law, outright illegal. In the eyes of political scientists and Constitutional lawyers, he occupies a place somewhere beyond our polite term “constitutional dictator.” So, where were the conservatives and their opposition to expanded Federal government during the Bush administration? Simple question. Anyone hearing an answer out of the right?

Here’s another one – It has been common practice since the Johnson administration to characterize Democratic presidents as “socialist” because post-World War II Democratic presidents have supported social programs to aid the poor and disenfranchised. Why has this labeling gone beyond that one word so that President Obama been brandeded a “communist, Marxist, Maoist, Nazi” (usually in combination with Muslim Kenyan)?

Words have power. Anyone who seriously believes that “sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me” is an idiot who is in denial about the cause of the spike of suicides in our teenagers. For most of my life the greatest enemy of the United States has been communism. During the Cold War, out of that fear, the United States government supported brutal, genocidal fascist regimes like that of Augusto Pinochet in Chile. Our government didn’t care how corrupt or repressive a dictator was just as long as he was anti-communist. After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the communist regimes of Eastern Europe, we still had China and North Korea to keep our fear of communism alive, even though neither of them actually qualifies as a purely communist regime anymore.

There are still in this country large numbers of people who fear communism, who expect a communist invasion at any moment, who still think we will shortly be wishing we still built fallout shelters and trained our kids to duck and cover. These are the people who have defended their right to own guns because we must be able to repel the invasion with civilian militias after a nuke takes out Washington. They are as incapable of seeing this perceived threat reasonably as the Ulster Protestants who claim that the Pope is planning to invade the British Isles and depose the Queen with his army of 90 men in doublets and tights carrying pikes.

Years ago, Ann Coulter wrote newspaper columns in praise of Joe McCarthy and Augusto Pinochet. The sight of her addressing an audience of tan-shirted Boy Scouts was too close for comfort to old newsreels of the Nazi youth rallies. The rhetoric was bad enough during the Clinton administration to create Tim McVeigh, it has gone far beyond that now.

When conservative demagogues label a President a communist, Marxist, Maoist, Nazi they are triggering a defense response in those who fear those words. That is the simple explanation for the alarming resurgence of militias in this country. People like Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck have convinced the easily terrified that our own government is the communist enemy who will subject them to a dictatorship which will strip them of their personal property rights, ship them off to slave labor camps and take hold of their children. When you add to that fear-mongering politicians who use gun imagery like gunsights, “don’t retreat, reload” and revolutionary words like “use Second Amendment remedies” you have a situation in which people are arming themselves against our own government out of irrational fear.

President John Adams considered that kind of speech “sedition” and pushed a law that made it illegal in the United States use it. The Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 expired during the early 1800’s, but they were specifically written by the Federalist Party (which later evolved into the Republican Party) to repress the free speech of the Democratic-Republican Party (which later evolved into the Democrats). Anyone seeing a pattern here? Adams was willing to suppress our freedoms to protect the power of his party. Adams – one of our founding fathers, one of the heroes of our history. Fast forward 200 years and you have the Nixon administration and their “enemies list” and the Bush administration monitoring our communications looking for “evidence” of “terrorist activity” and it all amounts to a reinstatement of the Alien and Sedition Acts without Congressional involvement. It is perfectly acceptable to the Republican Party to incite suppression of free speech as long as that speech is liberal criticism of the Republican Party, but no one is willing to tone down the use of powerfully evocative words that put guns into people’s hands and make them join militias and make targets of Democrats and liberals. As Jon Stewart pointed out, there is an enormous difference between some 18-year old anti-war protester and a political party that idolizes one of the demagogues inciting this fear. (Remember the bouncing Rush video?)

I’m a crack shot with a World War II Enfield whose kickback and brass buttplate would throw Palin on her skinny derrière and dislocate her shoulder, and in over fifty years of target shooting, I have never felt I had to “retreat” from my targets. So Sarah Palin’s “explanation” that she was talking about reloading the ballot box doesn’t fly against her use of the same words – “don’t retreat, reload” – while handing her daughter a bullet on her reality show. The only time a hunter “retreats” from his/her quarry is when they are such rotten shots they have wounded and enraged a very large animal. Jared Loughner probably did not act out of any political motivation, but this tragedy must make us look at how one party is encouraging fear of and advocating violence against the opposition both overtly and with their refusal to denounce it.

From: http://lezgetreal.com/2011/01/plausible-deniability-spin-and-the-power-of-words/
 
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