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Potential problem feeder
- Thread starter Arson
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larryg
New member
Sorry, missed that. I don't know whether you are aware of this, but stress causes snakes not to eat sometimes, and you may be stressing her more with the teasing and handling. You don't need a separate feeding container. You don't need to do anything except put the live pinky in the viv and leave it alone until the following morning. If you can avoid handling the snake at all for 2 or 3 days prior, that's what you really should do. To put it into easy directions, Leave the snake alone for a few days - Open the cage - Toss the live, healthy pinky in around late afternoon/early evening, where the snake will see it - Go out and watch a movie or something (don't come back for a while, then don't disturb the snake when you do come back.) Leave the pinky there until the following day. Think about how a snake would eat in the wild, and try to duplicate that. As long as the temps are in the 70s, the temps really shouldn't be an issue.
Arson
NEEDS MORE COWBELL!
Again Larry, I think you're missing some of my details. Each feeding attempt has 5 days between it. I don't handle the snake unless I'm feeding her. She's always left alone when attempting to feed until it was the 2 times I tried to tease her. These never lasted more than 3 or 4 minutes when it became obvious that she wasn't interested. This isn't my first snake, only my first problem feeder.
Also, the last 3 times I've fed her I've placed her into a container and then that container inside her viv. All my snakes eat in seperate containers. I cannot just toss the pink inside the viv for feeding because she's got aspen bedding in there. I'd have to change the bedding which might be more stressful than the measures I'm taking now.
Also, the last 3 times I've fed her I've placed her into a container and then that container inside her viv. All my snakes eat in seperate containers. I cannot just toss the pink inside the viv for feeding because she's got aspen bedding in there. I'd have to change the bedding which might be more stressful than the measures I'm taking now.
peep_827
hehehe
Um . . .
Well, I was hoping for good news on this . . . but at least it's not BAD news.
I am NO expert, so this is just my opinion . . . but if you have anoles running around could you catch one and scent a live pink with it? I wouldn't feel good trying to feed a wild lizard to a snake cause of the chance of parasites, but I don't think there'd be any harm in rubbing a pink with a wild lizard, tho it does seem like a strange thing to do.
I've also read where people have put the pink in the tank or tub on a paper towel. I know there's a risk the snake will remove the pink to the substrate and eat some, but I think it would be good to reduce your snake's stress level as much as possible.
Another thought, could you get a baby anole from a pet store? If it came down to you might even chance it with a wild one. I don't know how long it's been since your snake ate, if it's coming down to life or death anyway, I'd take the chance.
Don't beat yourself up over not asking more questions when you bought her. You were excited about finding her, and you took it for granted she was okay. And maybe she is, maybe she's just a little extra nervous or maybe you haven't found the right food for her yet.
Let us know how she does, okay? Good luck!
Well, I was hoping for good news on this . . . but at least it's not BAD news.
I am NO expert, so this is just my opinion . . . but if you have anoles running around could you catch one and scent a live pink with it? I wouldn't feel good trying to feed a wild lizard to a snake cause of the chance of parasites, but I don't think there'd be any harm in rubbing a pink with a wild lizard, tho it does seem like a strange thing to do.
I've also read where people have put the pink in the tank or tub on a paper towel. I know there's a risk the snake will remove the pink to the substrate and eat some, but I think it would be good to reduce your snake's stress level as much as possible.
Another thought, could you get a baby anole from a pet store? If it came down to you might even chance it with a wild one. I don't know how long it's been since your snake ate, if it's coming down to life or death anyway, I'd take the chance.
Don't beat yourself up over not asking more questions when you bought her. You were excited about finding her, and you took it for granted she was okay. And maybe she is, maybe she's just a little extra nervous or maybe you haven't found the right food for her yet.
Let us know how she does, okay? Good luck!
larryg
New member
From what I've always heard, if you are feeding live, the aspen is not much of an issue. The chances of a problem are like 1 in 1000 or less. Feeding f/t is different and potentially more risky, because the food tends to be wet or at least damp (more sticky). It's too bad you can't contact the breeder. Most of the advice I've stated for you has been from a fairly respected breeder of Kings, Corns, etc., told to me back before my young snake died a few months ago. He also recommends braining pinkies, which I should have tried but didn't. I know you don't think you are stressing it out by handling it just for a minute, moving it back and forth from the viv to the feeding container, etc. I am not that up on all the morphs, but if a ghost is made from a Miami, the lizard scenting (or a small lizard) could make a difference.
Arson
NEEDS MORE COWBELL!
Well, looks like I won't have to worry about my feeding problem anymore. I came home tonight to find this girl stiff and, sadly, dead. She didn't appear to have been dead very long because she wasn't cold and not too stiff. Upon closer inspection I noticed a dark black spot on her underside, something that looks very much like your average impaction. I've read lots about impaction, but I haven't fed this corn since I got her and it's been about 2 1/2 weeks. Could an impaction take this long to develop and kill her?
This is absolutely heartwrenching for me because I had such hopes for her. I guess she just wasn't meant to make it. Thanks to everyone for your advice. I've saved her in the freezer. Maybe I can take some pictures to show the spot I'm talking about.
This is absolutely heartwrenching for me because I had such hopes for her. I guess she just wasn't meant to make it. Thanks to everyone for your advice. I've saved her in the freezer. Maybe I can take some pictures to show the spot I'm talking about.
Joejr14
Grand Bubble Burster
Arson said:
As I said in the room, it might just be the gall bladder leaking.
Since you froze her, hit up a craft store and get a nice sharp razor/exacto knife, and do a little autopsy.
I did that with my anery that died to inspect the hard lump that was about an inch up from the vent.
Either way, you'll know if it was in impaction or just the gall bladder leaking.
larryg
New member
Sorry about your loss. Mine was not using her hide and lying streched out all the time in the last week or so before she died. Mine did eat a pinky (after much fussing over, repeated attempts) and a baby lizard then stopped eating and died about 2 or 2 1/2 weeks later. I could tell mine was sort of a 'weak snake' from the moment I started handling her. She didn't seem to have that much strength and was small and dainty-looking. If you are planning to breed, you are better off working with snakes that will be GOOD eaters, not just snakes that can be made to survive. Here's my dead snake, taken after being frozen for a while, measuring in at only about 10 1/2 inches.
