Question for Serpwidgets (or other math whiz)...

[Menhir]

Yes there are mathematical patterns in nature, but not everything in nature can be understood through simple mathematics.

That was a quote out of the movie pi, which is very philosophic btw.

The quantum perspective, if it is to be accepted, invariably leads from wave/particle theory into the macrocosmos. How can we separate the sub-atomic world from the perceived physical world it creates? We cannot.
The concept of Super-position in Quantum physics would allow that any single corn that was chosen from the group discussed in this particular thread could be both het' and not het' for a particular mutation.

We have proven that an object can be at two places at once, you can see it at any science lab now.
I am just playing quantum Devil's advocate now.
Breeding corns can be understood sufficiently well through math, I am just playing with ideas.
I thank The Unified Field for Planck, Bohr, and Feynman.

What you are saying is not true. It is not true for the case we are discussing. You say something about waves, ok - calculate the deBroglie wave length for a cornsnake and this will be the frst indication why you can't convert these things. The other thing is - yes, picking one animal without testing won't tell us anything. The corn is het and is not het at the same time, cause we don't know.
But you try to convert the example of Heisenbergs cat into the statistics thing, but you clearly missed the point, that the "chance" the cat is dead or not is also bound to time and this leads to the uncertainty relation.

Btw. this is physically not correct, this is just the easiest way to say is non mathematically.

 

[snakepimp]

Well...

I have not seen the movie pi since it was first released.
I do not quote movies.

We differ in our views on quantum "science", and I should not have brought it up on cornsnakes.com. You probably have much more education in this field than I do anyway. I just glean things from scientist/Physicist friends... and books, what can you learn from books? I need a professor to TELL me what to think, and that all of the answers are final.

I contend that Schrodinger's Cat and The Heisenberg uncertainty principle DO apply to this situation.
I understand that deBroglie waveforms don't directly apply to corn snakes, but all things are made up of the motion-and-rest we call matter, so indirectly they do.
I don't need to be right about this, I don't need you to think I am.
Accept that there are mysteries yet to be understood by science, and we will have common ground from which to work.
Semantic language barriers are difficult enough in one language. Thank you for your input. You are a nice enough guy.

 

[Amanda E]

Amanda asked what are the odds. She didn't ask "would you?" Nor did she ask, "should I?"

Exactly! LOL.

Jimmy, I am wanting to produce Caramels and Ambers, as I'm sure you know from my other posts, but Serp is right, all I wanted to know was what the probability is. Since I got 2 Caramels and 1 Amber from this project anyway, so I don't need to keep back any hypos or normals. But if I do (and I probably will anyway, just because some are pretty) I just wanted to know what the % was of them being a pair of Het Caramels.

Thanks for the answer by the way.