I have an albino jungle corn female. She is 20 months old. I was holding her one day (this was about a month ago) and my male bubblegum (about the same age) was crawling around his tank so I got him out too. My female immediately started wrapping her tail around him and acting funny. She also emitted some sort of whitish stuff from her cloaca. It occured to me that she must want to be bred. I didn't want to breed her because she's too young and not big enough so I put them in their seperate tanks. Since then she has changed her temperment completely. She was as calm as can be but now she bites every time I get her out to feed her or clean her tank. Is her behavior normal? Will she ever return to the calm snake she once was? My male wasn't affected in any way, he is still as calm as ever. Nothing has changed about her husbandry. Temps are same as always. Cage is the same. Can't figure out what has changed her attitude. Anyone else ever experienced such a drastic change?
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Question for the more experienced keepers
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I was told by the breeder that she's a female but I had her probed again just to make sure and she probed female again. At first I thought she musked but it looked different than that. Musk is usually more yellowy but this was definitely white and kinda thick. Even if she turned out to be male after being probed female twice, would that affect her behavior like this? Do males act like that if you don't let them breed? I've never bred any of mine. I don't plan on breeding any of them. Last week I took her out for a bit to feed her and look her over and she was jumpy but fine. This week she is in blue so she is testy again and struck at me when I moved her hide for cleaning. I can understand snakes are sometimes grumpy when in blue but she's always been fine before. Even with blue eyes I could reach in and handle her and she would even eat. Her attitude is just different these days. She rattles her tail now too and she's never done that before. Also, just so you know, I've had her since she was a hatchling so I know her moods pretty well.
Neither of my boys have become aggressive after mating (or thinking my hands are a female in one males case :grin01: ), but all snakes are different.
I am a mean, mean mommy. I just held one of my guys up to a girl to get him excited. :grin01: :grin01:
Did the white stuff look like this?
I am a mean, mean mommy. I just held one of my guys up to a girl to get him excited. :grin01: :grin01:
Did the white stuff look like this?
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Kat
I'm talkin' to YOU.
I think kingsnakes probe somewhat differently than cornsnakes. If so, then your jungle corn's mixed lineage might account for the apparent mistake in sexing. It sure SOUNDS like your corn is a male.
Incidentally, probing can occasionally give false readings even in non-hybrids. The absolute proof of gender is whether it produces sperm or eggs. Or rather, if it looks like a male, acts like a male, and tries to mate like a male... then it's a male. If it sits there and takes it, you can't be sure, but if it lays eggs then it's a female.
And sometimes males will get moody/aggressive during breeding season. A coworker of mine has a cornsnake that goes through similar behavior patterns to yours during breeding season.
-Kat
Incidentally, probing can occasionally give false readings even in non-hybrids. The absolute proof of gender is whether it produces sperm or eggs. Or rather, if it looks like a male, acts like a male, and tries to mate like a male... then it's a male. If it sits there and takes it, you can't be sure, but if it lays eggs then it's a female.
And sometimes males will get moody/aggressive during breeding season. A coworker of mine has a cornsnake that goes through similar behavior patterns to yours during breeding season.
-Kat
LOL Thanks for the info. The male bubblegum hasn't changed in any way so apparently he wasn't turned on by the "females" advances. I honestly don't care whether the snake is male or female since I'm not breeding, I was mainly concerned with the behavioral change. I'm sure he/she will eventually return to normal. From now on I will only hold one snake at a time!
Serpwidgets
New member
The best was Jeff Yohe's story of being at a show as a vendor, trying to tell someone a snake is a proven breeder male, as it is being bred by another male! :grin01:Kat said:Honestly, I wasn't trying to be funny.I've heard tales of two proven males going at it when housed together.
-Kat
ArpeggioAngel
Around Here Somewhere....
Adding to this thread...will males who are not old enough to breed also sometimes get aggressive during breeding season? One of my snakes is a little nippy lately and I am wondering if that might be the reason. He is a late '05 so not old enough to breed yet....
lefty_mussolini
Start Wearing Purple
You'd be surprised how young males can breed, or want to anyway. The young ones will go through the motions but usually have low fertility (not always though.)ArpeggioAngel said:
My smallest male that bred this year was around 90 g. but I'm pretty sure smaller males have done the deed.