satins!

[diamondlil]

Just had a great stroke of luck! I'd culled off some breeders and wanted some new blood in my feeder colonies, so was on the look out for young male mice. As well as a cute tri-colour male, a mis-sexed female had produced a litter in the shop. (She's from the same litter as the male). So I've brought home the young female and her 7 hoppers, which include 2 pink-eyed white satins! Even better, the satins are one of each sex, so I'm hopefully going to have a new line of shiney mice
I'll put the mother in with the new male after the hoppers are weaned, then decide how to divide the litter. From a quick look I think the satin male is the only boy, but I'll recheck a couple of times to be sure. The litter includes patched chocolate and white, dove and white and a paler colour which I think is cinnamon.
All 9 mice and a new line of genetics to play with for £15

 

[hartsock]

Just had a great stroke of luck! I'd culled off some breeders and wanted some new blood in my feeder colonies, so was on the look out for young male mice. As well as a cute tri-colour male, a mis-sexed female had produced a litter in the shop. (She's from the same litter as the male). So I've brought home the young female and her 7 hoppers, which include 2 pink-eyed white satins! Even better, the satins are one of each sex, so I'm hopefully going to have a new line of shiney mice
I'll put the mother in with the new male after the hoppers are weaned, then decide how to divide the litter. From a quick look I think the satin male is the only boy, but I'll recheck a couple of times to be sure. The litter includes patched chocolate and white, dove and white and a paler colour which I think is cinnamon.
All 9 mice and a new line of genetics to play with for £15

That's cool! The problem that I am having with playing with the genetics is that I don't want to feed them off after that, lol. I have a number of satins and I look at them and have paired some up and then I think, "but I just can't kill them!"

Have fun with the new miceys!

 

[hartsock]

Hey how about some pics?

 

[diamondlil]

I've tried, but they were a bit lively! I'll see if any came out as less of a blur, as most show disappearing mouse-butts!

 

[hartsock]

I've tried, but they were a bit lively! I'll see if any came out as less of a blur, as most show disappearing mouse-butts!

LOL, that is my favorite time to walk into the room...at night quiet, dark, flip on a light and all you hear is the scampering of little feet and butts flying up in the air. Sometimes durring the day I sneak in the room stand there and then clear my throat or cough. LOL, little things amuse me. It's a wonder that my ladies haven't eaten all their babies due to stress!

 

[diamondlil]

Ok, I've tried! Not the best pics, but they show the variation in the litter.

 

[Flagg]

I've got a fawn male that has sort of a shiny look to him, and he looks either fawn or ivory white depending on viewing angle and light.
You can't really see the effect from the pictures, but is that a satin? He doesn't have long hair though.

 

[diamondlil]

I'm no expert at mice, but I found this satin that reminded me of yours
http://www.miceandrats.com/sat_arg.htm
In the PEW satins I've just bought, I probably haven't captured the gloss very well. It's just like they've been polished I've discovered that they're called 'ivory satin'

 

[susang]

I love #2 those big ears and sweet face.

 

[diamondlil]

I just had such a stroke of luck with these mice, seeing as I was just looking for a young male to raise a couple of 'wives' for I've separated them from their mum, who's, ahem, on honeymoon with the young male I got.
I usually sex the mice at peach fuzz size by checking who's got nipples, so now I'm having great fun trying to sex 7 very active weanlings. As the boys keep sucking in their family jewels while they're all frolicking about, it's not going well! I know at least one of the satins is a boy, but not which one! Judging by the distance between genital openings isn't easy at this age either, too darn wriggly!

 

[ratsncorns]

Nice satin! I just got a pew satin as well and I have no clue how that happened, lol! I have two female satins, but that is a different colony. I guess there is always that chance that this colony has some relation, therefore making the satin. I think they are so pretty, shiny, and soft!

 

[diamondlil]

I've had no luck sexing the little darlings last night, I know I saw at least one set of testicles, but after picking up the mouse I thought I wanted out of their whirling dervish impersonation, if it had any it was hiding them well! I've read a tip from a mouse-breeding website to put them in a tub and look from underneath until they relax and show the goods, so I'm going to grab a cuppa and go stare at mouse bottoms! I like this little one's crazy hair, so I'll be hoping there's a satin long-hair gene in the mix too

 

[wade]

Good luck with your mouse bottoms Janine. I'd like to mess around with my mice genes and create something different. I've never tried that.

 

[diamondlil]

Phew, dunnit! 4 boys, 3 girls, and a good home for the spare boy I'm experimenting with keeping this set of breeders in pairs, rather than trios, to see which pairs will produce the nicest babies

 

[wade]

OK, you're talking over my head. I've raised thousands of mice but mine are all Swiss Websters, pink-eyed albinos.

What is a pew satin? Is that a satin that looks like crap? That is spelled poo.

Does the satin gene breed true? Can you get 100% satin babies from two satin parents?

What about color? Is there a co dominance gene thing going on?

 

[Flagg]

OK, you're talking over my head. I've raised thousands of mice but mine are all Swiss Websters, pink-eyed albinos.

What is a pew satin? Is that a satin that looks like crap? That is spelled poo.

Does the satin gene breed true? Can you get 100% satin babies from two satin parents?

What about color? Is there a co dominance gene thing going on?

PEW means pink eyed white.
true satin is a recessive gene so breeding 2 true satins should produce all satins. There is also another gene, or perhaps the heterozygous form, that is sort of satin-like.

If they are yellow, orange, fawn or reddish then avoid breeding 2 yellows together as there is a lethal homozygous yellow gene to watch out for.

 

[wade]

Flagg, where is a good web site I can go to so I can read up on mouse genetics.


By the way, thanks for the info above.

What would you do if you were messin with mouse genes and you had a silver and an orange satin. Sould I breed them together? Or try other combos?

 

[diamondlil]

PEW means pink eyed white.
true satin is a recessive gene so breeding 2 true satins should produce all satins. There is also another gene, or perhaps the heterozygous form, that is sort of satin-like.

If they are yellow, orange, fawn or reddish then avoid breeding 2 yellows together as there is a lethal homozygous yellow gene to watch out for.

Thanks Flagg. the mother and father( and/or uncle) of the litter are tricolour black,white and tan. They aren't satins but do look more glossy than the black and white mice I'd got already.
In the litter there are a pair of ivory satins, a pair of dove and white, of which the male is a long haired satin, the female is a satin, and a fawn and white female I'm pairing with a tricolour male. I'm giving the spare dove and white satin male to my friend.
Well, I'm calling them satins, because they are the glossiest mice I've ever seen, but I'd not heard of the satin mimic. Do you have any links? some of the articles I've read link satin to some immune system problems, so I'll maintain my patched mice as a seperate line just in case there are problems.

 

[diamondlil]

I've left 4 out of the litter to grow on, and there's a new colour! I'd thought it was black/tricolour like the parents, but it's chocolate brown. The litter that came with the female are all discovering the joy of sex now, so I'm hoping for good production rates as well as more surprise colours

 

[dionythicus]

They are adorable! My goal is to produce a long haried satin dove and tan or chocolate and tan. I've got the long hairs, the tans, and the satin gene in there somewhere. Maybe if I let them get past pinky stage, I'd actually know what I'm producing! I do have a few litters that I've let grow into fuzzies and hoppers, so we'll see. You were lucky to find those satins.