snake acting like its dying

Alsoknownas · Aug 18, 2006

Plissken said:
It doesn't sound to me like you did anything wrong.

Besides lay your trust in a heat mat like that. You need a thermometer so you can have some accurate way of controlling the heat, even if that wasn't the cause of his death.

Ssthisto · Aug 18, 2006

Maybe I'm just being pedantic, but....

A thermometer measures the temperature and does not do anything else. It will just tell you what temperature something is. A thermometer will tell you 'yup, your snake's been cooked by high temperatures' ... and that's it.

A thermostat measures the temperature via a probe and then controls[/b] the equipment to maintain a steady temperature by either controlling the 'amount' of electricity getting through (dimmer stat - for light bulbs, usually), sending controlled pulses of electricity to the equipment (pulse stat - anything but light bulbs) or by turning the equipment on and off (on-off or 'mat' stat - anything but lightbulbs, but it's the budget option). A correctly functioning and properly calibrated thermostat will prevent heating equipment from getting to temperatures high enough to cook your snake.

Skimpy, you need a thermostat to control your chosen heating equipment.

I have to admit that if I didn't have ALL of the equipment required to keep my chosen animal correctly, I wouldn't have gotten the animal until I did have all the equipment needed - I really don't believe in 'I'll get the next important thing when I get paid - but I've already got the snake'. Heating equipment and heating control equipment are equally important and both should have been in place and tested before any living animal was put into the environment you'd prepared.

I'm very sorry you lost your little snake, and I hope it wasn't something contagious that will take your other one with it.

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

thanks for your comments.

im gonna need people like you around if i am going to be any good at this.

cheers :cheers:

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

i am well educated....know what difference is between thermometer and thermostat. Milton was a birthday present...very much a surprise. yes, i need the equipment, but im not perfect. thermostat is the ONLY thing i dont have...everything else is perfect. want a picture?

get off the heatmat thing...that didnt kill him. these snakes come from a rescue centre...people have mistreated them before so it not as simple as temperature. and...i have been vetted and checked to make sure i am capable of caring for them.

Flagg · Aug 18, 2006

I guess your extensive research didn't turn up any information about quarantine either. I hope your other snake didn't catch whatever the dead one had.

There, is that scathing enough for you?

Dave123 · Aug 18, 2006

Sorry to hear about the loss of your pet. My first ever corn died of the same thing. I hope you other one is okay.

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

quite, you old sh*t!! to my knowledge, both snakes were quarantined by the rescue centre. i explained my reservations about putting them together, and was told it would be fine. dont reply to my threads anymore...you are bitter and twisted.

starting trouble with newbies is quite low...are you alright?

Mary-Beth · Aug 18, 2006

skimpy said:
i have been vetted and checked to make sure i am capable of caring for them.

Huh? :shrugs:

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

im not going to be made to feel worse by you Flagg the Nag!! i cant feel worse than i do now.

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

Mary-Beth said:
Huh? :shrugs:

rescue folk know what my setup is, they are confident enough that the snakes went to a good home. had to visit them a few times before taking the snakes. they wouldn't hand them out to anyone is what i meant, but couldn't be bothered explaining. shouldn't have to explain myself constantly

Mary-Beth · Aug 18, 2006

skimpy said:
quite, you old sh*t!! to my knowledge, both snakes were quarantined by the rescue centre. i explained my reservations about putting them together, and was told it would be fine. dont reply to my threads anymore...you are bitter and twisted.

starting trouble with newbies is quite low...are you alright?

skimpy said:
im not going to be made to feel worse by you Flagg the Nag!! i cant feel worse than i do now.

Ignorance, Insults, and Expletives
Oh my!

Skimpy, the only thing you're going to accomplish by getting defensive and throwing insults around is getting yourself banned. Please don't try to make us think that you are the perfect snake keeper and you can do no wrong. Obviously something IS wrong because you have a dead snake. Everyone makes mistakes, what sets the good keepers apart from the bad ones is how they learn from their mistakes.

Flagg · Aug 18, 2006

skimpy said:
quite, you old sh*t!! to my knowledge, both snakes were quarantined by the rescue centre. i explained my reservations about putting them together, and was told it would be fine. dont reply to my threads anymore...you are bitter and twisted.

starting trouble with newbies is quite low...are you alright?

Hey, I apologized already in an earlier post and you insisted on throwing down the gauntlet. I'm not the only person who has tried to help that you've been antagonistic towards, so I guess you can take it.

Mary-Beth · Aug 18, 2006

skimpy said:
rescue folk know what my setup is, they are confident enough that the snakes went to a good home. had to visit them a few times before taking the snakes. they wouldn't hand them out to anyone is what i meant, but couldn't be bothered explaining. shouldn't have to explain myself constantly

Was the rescue center the place that told you it would be fine to house the snakes together? If it is, then forget everything they've told you and start over from the beginning. The FAQ pages on the forum would be a great place to start.

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

the rescue centre said it was alright to put them together. i now know that i cant do this.

im not implying i am the perfect snake keeper, but there are worse out there. at least i care what has happened. the snake was sick, probably before i got it. he may not have survived long, but at least he did survive, for a while at least. being operated on at three months it is amazing that he lived to be 5 mths.

Plissken · Aug 18, 2006

Alsoknownas said:
Besides lay your trust in a heat mat like that. You need a thermometer so you can have some accurate way of controlling the heat, even if that wasn't the cause of his death.

I think it has been established that the mat did not kill the snake. Skimpy did not kill the snake, that was my point. I think Skimpy has got the message that she needs a thermostat :shrugs:

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

Flagg said:
Well I apologize if my post was insensitive, I thought it was rather reasonably stated. I'm going to stop replying to this kind of thread, its just the same thing over and over again. There's no reason new snake owners should HAVE to learn from their mistakes. This isn't directed at anyone specifically, just this kind of post in general, of which there are far too many lately.

you though it was reasonably stated. that is no kind of apology! take your own comments to heart. stop replying to this kind of thread then!

Mary-Beth · Aug 18, 2006

skimpy said:
you though it was reasonably stated. that is no kind of apology! take your own comments to heart. stop replying to this kind of thread then!

I'm curious. Do you think you are being reasonable in this thread, Skimpy?

skimpy · Aug 18, 2006

Mary-Beth said:
I'm curious. Do you think you are being reasonable in this thread, Skimpy?

maybe not. perhaps tommorrow it will become clearer for me. i have just lost my wee snake, which has left me quite upset. then Flagg comes wading in being insensitive and harsh when there was no need.

tell you what....quote me on all my unreasonable statements in this thread... then i will see where it all went wrong!

Mary-Beth · Aug 18, 2006

skimpy said:
maybe not. perhaps tommorrow it will become clearer for me. i have just lost my wee snake, which has left me quite upset. then Flagg comes wading in being insensitive and harsh when there was no need.

tell you what....quote me on all my unreasonable statements in this thread... then i will see where it all went wrong!

If you can't see the statements you made that were out of line, me pointing them out won't make them any more clear to you. Some of the things you posted were not only extremely rude, but also against the rules of this forum.

I understand that you're upset, but having something bad happen to you doesn't mean you get to ignore rules and abandon all sense of common decency.

Lennycorn · Aug 18, 2006

skimpy said:
i am well educated....know what difference is between thermometer and thermostat. Milton was a birthday present...very much a surprise. yes, i need the equipment, but im not perfect...... and...i have been vetted and checked to make sure i am capable of caring for them.

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