Snakes aren't for me I don't think. I think I made a mistake

[El Jefe]

Just don't get carried away. You don't want this to happen:

http://gallery.completecomputing.com/userpublic/denise/album20/aad.jpg.html

I used to drink that stuff. Had a fellow grad student that was from Japan and had the snake juice that he'd pass around. Interesting stuff...

 

[Matthew]

hell I hate the feel of the little ***

To me, this is probably my favorite or second-most (Feeding time being the other) favorite part of owning a snake. I simply can't get enough of that slithery smoothness.

It's even how I convince my friends to hold Tootse! I just talk about the sheer awesomeness of the way she feels, and they're willing to try.

*Not that this post was useful in any way, but it's 8:30 and I'm already bored at work*

 

[TrpnBils]

It is sort of strange since there are recent posts from him about how much he loved his snake and even wanted to get a ball python.

Just in case he's still considering the ball for some reason -

FYI: Ball pythons have much larger teeth than corns.

 

[Flagg]

Just in case he's still considering the ball for some reason -

FYI: Ball pythons have much larger teeth than corns.

... and they are a bit more demanding in terms of temperatures and humidity, and often feeding (or lack thereof).

 

[Maize411]

I think we might have scared Glock off...but I do agree with everyone..I am a security officer full time which means they could call me in at any time...I only have a 2 room studio apartment..but in this small place I have a boyfriend, a dog, 3 cats and 2 snakes...the snakes are by far the simplest to deal with..the cats are starting to put up major problems and the dog can be a pain sometimes cause when we leave he throws a fit...I acutally think my snakes are my favorite pet ( with a slight exception to my cat Mitsi which I have had for almost 10 years..I love the old girl)

 

[TrpnBils]

A point of interest for myself anyway: My burmese and my corn both shed last night. One of my boas is in a naturalistic setup (plants, soil, etc) that needs watered every few days. I just finished cleaning up both sheds (and the rest of the mess that comes with it), did a few other odds and ends with the other snakes, watered the natural viv, bleached, rinsed, and filled all the water dishes, and cleaned up the room I was working in.

It only took about 1h15m total. If it were just the corn, it would have taken about 10 minutes.

 

[Corny Noob]

I think we might have scared Glock off...QUOTE]

No that was Rogue!

:flames: Me

lol sorry.
I just this this is a sad thing to see, maybe he really did realize that he made a mistake but such a drastic change....

 

[bitsy]

I do feel sorry for Glock after all that careful preparation and excitement, but best he realises now than a couple of years in with the (inevitable) additional Corns and a Ball. He would have made a great addition to the hobby, being so conscientious.

I also find my Corns fast and easy to care for. Most of the hard work is in the initial setup before you get them. I have 16 snakes and added together, they take a fraction of the time to care for than I needed to cope with one small cat (and they don't poop in my slippers, either - bonus!) :sidestep:

 

[Matthew]

Yep, Tootse is a breeze to look after. She's by far my least time consuming 'kid'. Each of my lizards takes around 5-10 minutes a day a piece. Tootse is lucky to consume 20 minutes a week...

In fact, I'm thinking about getting rid of all my snakes with legs and getting more snakes! Anyone want some leezards? :grin01:

 

[Cuddles]

I think Glock is doing a better thing by getting rid of the snake then keeping it and neglecting it. True, snake care is easy, but why keep a snake if you really just dont want it? Good choice, and good luck!

 

[Duff]

What I find sad is people putting someone down (or basically calling them a liar, which crosses the #7 line pretty clearly imo) because they realized they didn't like something as much as they thought they would. I'm willing to bet everyone has come to that realization with at least one endeavour in their lifetimes.

Sounds to me like the s/he is taking full responsibility with the decision and going to do the right thing, so what right does anyone have to give him/her grief or call him/her a liar??

 

[Roy Munson]

What I find sad is people putting someone down (or basically calling them a liar, which crosses the #7 line pretty clearly imo) because they realized they didn't like something as much as they thought they would. I'm willing to bet everyone has come to that realization with at least one endeavour in their lifetimes.

Everything's always black and white with you. There's a big difference between "basically calling them a liar" and calling them a liar. The guy was about the most enthusiastic new keeper we've seen in a while here, posting numerous threads and asking lots of questions. Then out of the blue, he doesn't have time for the snake, and he's out. This raised questions, and some of us were curious as to whether there was more to the story. Maybe you should have reported the post where you saw rule #7 line "clearly" crossed, because it's not so clear to me. I'm guessing that this is the post you didn't like (if I'm wrong, please direct me to your real target):

I'll be the jerk...

How much time does a single snake take up? I have over sixty, and it doesn't take up all my time [...].

What's the real reason?

So I questioned someone's motives. Big deal. It's a discussion forum, Duff. You're "basically" calling someone a name-calling trouble-maker. Should you get a warning for that? I suspect that your entire post was composed in order to elicit a specific response (imo). Baiting can be considered inflammatory. Should you get a warning for that, or should we all just relax on the nitpicking?

Sounds to me like the s/he is taking full responsibility with the decision and going to do the right thing, so what right does anyone have to give him/her grief or call him/her a liar??

Again, who's calling him a liar? I know you don't always read entire threads before responding to the portions that set you off, so I'll paste this here for you. It was the very next post after the one I pasted above:

I already regret being a jerk, but I'm still curious.

You don't owe me or anyone else an explanation.

Read that second line carefully. See? Sometimes we can self-mod, or change our minds without your help, Duff. I guess I was hoping for a clearer explanation, but then I realized that it wasn't owed and that it might not be so tactful for me to ask. Speaking of not owing explanations... bye!

 

[Duff]

Talk about baiting. I never mentioned you, Mr. Moderator. I did read the whole thread, and always do before ever posting, just for the record. That's why I didn't post sooner, because I did see you took your comment back. You were not the only one being negative to the OP, but you sure were quick to assume I was attacking you.

 

[KellsBells]

I tried to find a hard hat smiley but this will have to do.... Dodging the :flames:

3 months on and my love affair with Marmite is still going strong. Even if 'she' is now a confirmed 'he'

Roy, I appreciate your curiosity as to why Glock has given up on the corn thing. It was a bit of a bolt out of the blue. :shrugs: I guess the honeymoon period was over. At least he's doing the right thing.

K.

 

[Duff]

I know you don't always read entire threads before responding to the portions that set you off

I tried, but sorry, can't hold my tongue on this one. This line is ABSOLUTELY breaking rule #7. An obvious attempt to p*** me off, as you have no way of knowing one way or another. Congrats, it worked, Mr Moderator, I'm po'd. And since you are above cooling off periods, you must feel proud.

 

[Roy Munson]

I tried, but sorry, can't hold my tongue on this one. This line is ABSOLUTELY breaking rule #7. An obvious attempt to p*** me off, as you have no way of knowing one way or another. Congrats, it worked, Mr Moderator, I'm po'd. And since you are above cooling off periods, you must feel proud.

I respect your opinion, and your right to express it; I just don't agree with it. I don't know what my mod position has to do with this. You seem really hung up on that whole thing. Maybe you think that the implied profanity, name-calling (my name is Mr. Arnold, not Mr Moderator), and baiting (e.g., "you must feel proud") will make me angry and cause me to slip and abuse the miniscule amount of authority I have here. Not happening. I don't dislike you, and none of this is personal to me. I don't need a cooling-off period, because I never got worked up. But you still have the right to report my post if you think it's such a flagrant violation. I won't hold it against you. The admin and the other mods can review your claims if you like.

 

[Roy Munson]

Talk about baiting. I never mentioned you, Mr. Moderator. I did read the whole thread, and always do before ever posting, just for the record. That's why I didn't post sooner, because I did see you took your comment back. You were not the only one being negative to the OP, but you sure were quick to assume I was attacking you.

Please read the following quote again. I made a guess, and I allowed for the possibility that I was wrong. In the event that I was wrong, I asked you to direct me to the post(s) that so clearly crossed the line of rule #7's intent as you claim. You haven't done that. Why not? How would you view this if you were me?

I'm guessing that this is the post you didn't like (if I'm wrong, please direct me to your real target):

 

[Jcapicy]

Home for Rogue

If you can't find a good home for Rogue, I would put aside my search for a new python to take him in.

Just shoot me a msg if you need to.

BTW There would be shipping involved as i am in FL.

 

[onelifetolive45]

Dean....Duff....I only have one thing to say to you two.... :flames:
ITS GETTING HOT IN HERE SO TAKE OFF ALL YOUR CLOTHES I AM GETTING SO HOT..... :flames:
Wow sorry about that.

 

[Snakespeare]

What I find sad is people putting someone down (or basically calling them a liar, which crosses the #7 line pretty clearly imo) because they realized they didn't like something as much as they thought they would.

I really don't see any put-downs or accusations of lying in any of these comments. As Roy pointed out, Glock's reasons for backing out were quite at odds with reality, and I think he was simply curious that there might be more to the story. These are the sorts of questions that might be useful for prospective snake owners, or new owners struggling with the same issues (whatever they might be) that Glock is. And I think Roy's questions raise a number of issues that members of this forum should always be thinking about (and which Glock might or might not help us to address): Should we do more to encourage people who have fallen in love with the idea of owning a snake to actually experience snakes before they make the jump? To what extent does the corn snake market encourage people to jump into the hobby before they might be ready? And there are probably even larger issues about the ethics of exotic animal ownership rattling about here as well. In the back of my mind are always concerns that by owning a captive-bred corn snake I am somehow contributing to, and helping to sustain an environment in which snakes are neglected and possibly abused. Glock is clearly taking steps to make sure that this doesn't happen to his pet--but there are probably a lot of people like Glock who don't make these extra efforts. And these are issues that we don't talk about enough on this forum--precisely because they are uncomfortable for most of us.

Also, my initial response was that Glock's experience might telegraph to prospective snake owners that this is an expensive, time-consuming hobby, when it really isn't. At the very least, I think those of us on this forum need to make sure that new or prospective snake owners have an accurate view of what they're in for, and all of the questions raised on this thread seem to be in that spirit.