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Snowsicle and Snowglow morphs

He looks an awful lot like my creamsicle. Wait a couple sheds then get another picture:)

@grdn1014
a creamsicle is amel corn crossed with emoryi, even if it is 99% corn and 1% emoryi it is still considered a hybrid. My creamsicle is very docile, never has shown any aggression.
 
Did your creamsicle show any frosting when it was at this age like mine? Just wanna see if thats a normal thing for creamsicles. I am hoping he has snow in his bloodline somewhere so there will be some snow babies. I know for sure he has at least amelanistic genes, but is the Emoryi amel compatible with the amel in my snow corn? Basically if it is a creamsicle what would a creamsicle and snow corn pairing produce if perhaps he is het for amel and anery?
I just wish the breader would just tell me :shrugs: Oh well
 
No, mine doesn't show any frosting.
If you breed a creamsicle and snow you will get 100% creamsicles het anery UNLESS the cream is het for anery, then you will get 50% creams het anery, 50% snows.

I too have a cream and snow for future breeding. I really, really hope my cream is het for anery but I have no way on knowing since he came from a pet store. Breeding him will be the test:)
 
Maybe mine is possibly a frosted creamsicle then.. Time will tell I guess I just have to be patient.. I hope that both of our creamsicles prove to be het for anery ;) That will be nice :) He will be shedding soon so I will see if he looks any different then.. And I will take more pics after a few sheds.. Can anyone tell by looking at his head if he actually is a creamsicle or not?
 
Here is a pic of exactly what this snake looked like about a month and a half ago.. It was so cute, today I was holding him and noticing how dull and rough he was and how close he was to shedding.. Then about a half an hour later he started pushing his head into my hand and I knew what that he was trying to shed. So I put a little rock in my hand and he used it to llosen the skin from his face and continued to shed using my fingers as something to hold the skin as he slithered out of it.. It was soo cute..That was quite a bonding experience, well for me anyway ;)

Here is the link to the pic, it wasnt working before but it is now.. Scroll down to the Snowsicle corn pic and click on it, that is exactly what he looked like when I got him.. I think that mine is actually the one on top in that picture becuase I compared the markings and they are the same but who knows...

http://www.unusualalbinosnakes.com/youralbinos.htm

Maybe I can get the breader to email me back now that the link is working and he can see what I'm talking about...

Tell me what you think about how he used to look
 
The snakes in the link look like a colored snow, kinda like a coral snow but yours is too dark now to be that. Most likely yours is a snow/cream cross that just hatched out really light. I suspect he will keep getting more orange as he grows.

If yours is out of a creamsicle and is amel in color then he is a creamsicle. You might not ever get a definate morph name like you want due to the fact that not alot of people are breeding morphs from the hybrid creamsicle line and the morphs don't have offical excepted names yet.
 
That is the main reason I got him was because he looked so weird like that. Those snakes in the picture I'm guessing are his hatchling mates or whatever you'd call it. I still love him lol.. And I can't wait to see what he looks like in a year or so. I emailed the breeder last night again and still no response. Guess I'll have to wait till he has babies in a few years.. I will post another pic in a few more sheds.. Are the diamond like pattern on his sides an emoryi thing?
 
There is a phone# on Ben Siegel's web site, maybe you could call him?
I'm not really sure what a emoryi thing is, I have looked at pictures of them but couldn't tell you why they are different except for the color.
I'm not experienced enough to see differences in head shape/scales. I did read somewhere that emoryi's have more saddles but I don't know if its true.

http://www.kornnatterlexikon.de/index.php?action=2&section=222#EMORYI
 
Yeah I want to call but I dont have long distance so I cant yet. I dont know much about the head shapes or patterns either.. Not yet anyway :)
 
Here is a pic I took the other day of him chillin out in my pot of cactus seedlings. Not a good clear one but its a freshly shed pic :)
 

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Based on the photos your snake does look most like a frosted creamsicle - they have a combination of grey ratsnake, emoryi ratsnake and cornsnake. The grey ratsnake gives the frosted appearance to the saddles. The emoryi gives the creamsicle coloration.

The appearance of the hatchlings - with very little color on a mostly white snake, and the color appearing as they get older - is seen in some lines of corns - often from candycane background. Babies appear to be snows but are actually amelanistic and the red color takes some time to appear. This is not common but has been described before and the extensive white background on your snake suggests it may have been from candycane type cornsnake lines. Emoryi crosses were used in some cases to improve the white background in candycanes - so wouldn't be suprising.


mary v.
 
Mary thank you for all that good info, you seem very knowledgable about corn morphs. Thank you :) If he turns out to be a frosted cream I will be very happy. The breeder wont answer me back so I'll never know for sure. I am sure with time he will be more identifiable, well maybe. It would just be nice to know for sure so I know whether to label the babies oneday as hybrids or not. If I never know for sure I will just say they are hybrid to be on the safe side. Maybe next season Ben Seigel will have some more babies like him and maybe they will be on his site and the mystery will be answered. I guess I might do a photo request on frosted cream hatchlings. Thank you again very much, I respect your knowledge :)
 
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