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Suggestions needed

dawnrenee2000

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As most of you know, Most of my genetics knowledge is with kings, milks and rats. I am not upto date on all the genetic combinations with corns yet, but am getting there!! So I would like some help with this one ....

We are looking to add to our collection a pair of corns to use in genetics instructions for our website that teaches high school kids the basics of genetics through breeding trials.

What we would like is to breed two corns together that carry 4-5 genetic traits that are comparable so that we would have a large variety of offspring and could do some detailed work with the punnett square.

Can anyone suggest what I should be looking for to acheive this, or where I can find such animals or particular morphs that would pair up well and produce a variety of 4 or more types of offspring?

Thanks
 
It sounds like you are looking for a pair of quad or quint het normals. You'll have to watch for breeders who are breeding two multi-gene snakes together without any common genes between the two. An example would be a ghost x a butter or an anery lavender x a phantom. There are several breeders that make pairings such as these in order to work towards a specific goal.

As for making it easy to distinguish the difference between the outcomes, you'll want to avoid mixing genes that are similar such as an animal that is het for both anery and charcoal or two types of hypo.

An easy one would be normals het anery, amel, hypo, and say motley or stripe. Because you'd get normals, anerys, amels, snows, hypos, ghosts, and different patterns as well. The only ones that would be hard to distinguish would be amels and snows that were also homo for hypo - but that would be a perfect example of genes that are masked.

Jenn
 
Okay, well really most anything would work. Here are a few suggestions.

Stripe and motley are on the locus, both recessive to normal, and stripe recessive to motley. That would be an interesting gene set to include so that the high school kids can see some of the different things that can happen when there is not just one simple recessive/dominant relationship.

To get the best results from this get one snake het for stripe and het for motley, and one het for stripe.

To easy the price that these snakes may cost you, although I doubt it would be too unreasonable, I would include one snake het for amel, homo for anery and one snake het for anery and homo for amel. It may also be more interesting to get a snake het for ultra to see how ultra and amel act, because of there co-dominance.

Besides that you can include any other simple recessive (or incomplete dominant) genes you find interesting.

In an IDEAL case, I would get:

Female: Ultramel (het ultra, and het amel) het anery and stripe.

Male: Anery het amel motley and stripe

Maybe get 2 snakes with these genes and het for caramel, or lavender just for fun?

That's what I think covers the most material, the only problem is it is going to be VERY hard to get those snakes, I think, but we'll see. have fun with the project!
 
also please keep in mind that if you get hatlchings you will have to wait to use them for said breeding trials.

I have a few local breeders i can talk to with some multi het normals i will see what i can find out tonight as i need to get feeders tonight anyway.
 
Jcapicy said:
also please keep in mind that if you get hatlchings you will have to wait to use them for said breeding trials.

I have a few local breeders i can talk to with some multi het normals i will see what i can find out tonight as i need to get feeders tonight anyway.
Good point. What you can do is post a wanted add in the for sale part of the forums, listing those hets you are hoping to have in an adult or sub adult that someone is looking to sale. Someone out there is bound to be thinning their stock right now - seeing as how room needs to be made for new hatchlings.


Jenn
 
Thanks for the replies. Yes, before i post a wanted ad, I wanted some ideas on good matches to look for. Both of you gave some good valuable information. I have no desire to raise these from hatchling so I will be looking for subadult or adult stock multi hets. At the end of breeding season I expect I should be able to find some as people thin their groups down. I know it will be hard to look for specific homo/with specific Het traits, but it doesnt hurt to try and I am in no rush. I have plenty of other projects to use with the kids but this one would be nice to add in.

Thanks again
 
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