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Tangerine Creamsicle???

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SnowflakeMadeira05

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I have a picture of my Creamsicle that I got back in October. I was told that it was a Creamsicle. I was thinking it is a tangerine creamsicle but I'm not for sure. I thought that maybe if I put a picture of it on here then some of you guys could maybe tell me what she/he is? A lot of people have told me that I won't be able to tell what she/he is untill Madeira gets older. But I saw some pictures of some Tangerine Creamsicles and I thought she looked a lot like them. Could you guys please tell me what she is? Some time later I will try and put some pictures of my Snow I got in December on here.


Thanks....Amber
 

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Wow...this is great you guys/ This whole time I have been told she was a creamsicle...and all this time I though she was,lol. I just never was for sure...because there were alwasy different morphs that looked like her. And I'm not an expert at colors,lol.

I had actully got her in Florida at a place called Petz A Lot...I think was the name (near Tamps or in Tampa....I THINK). He had very reasonable prices... and waited untill we went down there to get her. She has been the perfect snake since then. One of these days I might get her sexed...Snowflake too. But since they are just my pets...I'm not rushing into that.

Any other thoughts on what she is would be GREAT!!!
 
Where did you get this snake from?
Even though in the picture it looks like an amel if you got it from a breeder that person probably has better knowledge of its genetics than a few people looking at a blurry picture..
I'm not familiar with the term "Tangerine Creamsicle" so I can't really be of too much help on this post... but I'd go back and question this snake's source for more accurate information.
 
Remember that Creamsicles ARE amels... they are an amelanistic intergrade between an emoryi ratsnake and a corn snake. If it was not an amel, then it would be called a Rootbeer, not a Creamsicle.

The term "Tangerine Creamsicle" is not really a widely adopted term I believe. Those that do use it apply it to selectively bred Creamsicles that are extremely bright in orange coloration. If she was sold to you as a Creamsicle, then assume its a Creamsicle, but it looks just like a regular amel corn to me. Probably has a high % of corn blood vs emoryi blood.
 
Here is another picture of here....This one may not be so blurry,lol.

Oh...and I didn't know that creamsicles were Amels,lol. Like I said...I don't know about my colors very well,lol. I did notice is some other Amel adult pics and creamsicle pics...they look a lot different....IMO :shrugs: Maybe someone else could show me different???
 

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A lot of times, pet stores just throw a marketable nametag on something. Since there's no Tangerine gene in corns, it's at most an indicator of a certain bloodline it came from, if that.

For example, say you are a breeder and have two groups of amels you breed, and one of them is more orange and the other group is more red, so you call them that to keep track of which line they came from. Or you might prefer to separate yours out (regardless of which parents they hatched from) based on whether they're more orange or red. You might refer to them as your "orange" and "red" amels, but it doesn't mean they have to match up with or be related to any other breeder's "orange" amels. :)
 
Looks like my amel, and that guy has all his amels listed as some type of creamsicle... (Where I got mine, he was listed just as a red rat.) He buys from a wholesaler around here and the shop is actually down the street from where I work so I buy most of my pinkies there...
 
SnowflakeMadeira05, Keep in mind that a Creamsicle is any Amel that has Great Plains Ratsnake (Elaphe guttata emoryi) bloodlines behind them. Deferint breeders breed towards different colors. They can range from yellow to a soft creamy orange to looking like a normal Amel. But as long as they have the emoryi blood in them they are a Creamsicle.

A Tangerine Creamsicle is an Amel resulting from crossing a Corn Snake (E. g. guttata) with a Southwestern Ratsnake (E. g. meahllmorum). As far as I know there are only a handfull of breeders working with these.

If it was sold as a Creamsicle then I would say that is what it is.

~Jeff C.
 
Ok....thanks you guys....I will still be calling her a creamsicle for now,lol. Untill she grows up some and then I guess we will for sure know :shrugs:
 
SnowflakeMadeira05 said:
Ok....thanks you guys....I will still be calling her a creamsicle for now,lol. Untill she grows up some and then I guess we will for sure know :shrugs:
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Even once she is grown up you won't be able to know. The only way to no for sure is by knowing what is in her background. That is why I am a firm believer that if it was purchased as a Creamsicle then that is what it needs to stay, even if it looks 100% Corn. Also any offspring should carry the Creamsicle nomenclature (or if not amel then another one of the readily accepted names for emoryi crosses).

~Jeff C.
 
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