Tequila sunrises, pink snows, etc etc

[Skyespirit86]

All this is very important to a magazine article I am writing BTW:crazy02:

I have been searching back through previous threads and have been totally confused. I looked at the VMSherp website and it says the TS ghosts have been proved to be ultra or ultramel ghosts. This was my starting point...

Looking through posts on here I see so many names being used I cant work out the logic. I notice different people have put different names to lines of particularly pink looking snows (and ghosts too) like coral, strawberry, salmon, neon, etc etc. Are these all basically the same just different people naming the same thing differently?

When people started using the term 'strawberry' I got confused from the point of view that strawberry is the 'new' gene discovered to be allelic with hypo. Are people wondering if particularly pink snows and ghosts are actually het or homo for this strawberry hypo gene or is it an arty name (analogous to the corals, neons etc)- given to pink snows before the strawberry hypo was found to exist? Alternatively is it thought that like the Tequila Sunrises these Pink snows are also carrying an ultra gene? Or is that just a line of snows derived from Tequila sunrises, which supposedly are ultra snows? Blushing Corns were mentiatoned and I know that the name is not going to be used anymore but what were/are they?

I read that regular hypo snows arent thought responsible anymore for extra pinkiness. Is this true? They are still generally called coral snows, yes?


On Ians Vivarium corn guide it says a 'coral ghost' is a ghost made with the strawberry hypo gene. Does a coral ghost have 1 or 2 copies of the strawberry hypo gene? Or does it not matter...like whether something is ultra or ultramel often doesnt affect the morph name it is given.

 

[Tara80]

Coral Snows are snows that exhibit 'pink'. Thus the 'Strawberry gene' inter playing here. The line of thought right now is that the Strawberry gene is allelic to Hypo A but dominant.
There is a discussion going on right now about current hatchling results and studies pertaining to the interaction of the strawberry gene on Charles Pritzel's site at c c corns The Source (this web site will not let me link The Source, so you will need to go find it yourself) but it is under the thread titled "Strawberry Amel".

 

[Susan]

Good luck figuring it all out. The various names you are seeing result from various selectively bred lines that may or may not be related to various isolated or as yet unproven genes or gene combinations. For example, the term "coral snow" has more than one meaning. To some, it strictly refers to any snow that is also homozygous for the hypo A gene no matter how pink it is...or isn't. To others, it is a snow that is homozygous for strawberry. And still others, it refers to any snow that exhibits a coral pink color no matter if any hypo gene is present or not.

It is going to take many years to get it all figured out, determining the genetic make-up of any breeder's specific line to see how many and which gene(s) might be involved in that line and whether or not it is compatible to other lines.

 

[Theo's Keeper]

um, TC? you have a giant scorpion on your face. Just a heads up.

 

[Skyespirit86]

Ok, I am getting closer to figuring it out, its just the random way people throw names around and talk casually as though everyone will get it On the other maybe it cant really be helped because eveyone who sounds like they get it probably dont always and could be making mistakes, and it sounds like a big mess noone can be sure about anyway.

Ive read strawberry hypo is kind of dominant to normal hypo, when they say this do they just mean that there really is no difference in appearance between a snake carrying one strawberry and one hypo gene, and a homozygous strawberry, or do they mean that those with one of each are indeed a third phenotype and intermediate but kinda leaning more toward strawberry than a familiar hypo?

Trouble is theres sexual dimorphism, so sometimes a less colourful one could be carrying one normal hypo gene, or it could be homozygous but a female...

What about 'coral ghosts'? theyve been around some time, but do people think the strawberry gene is at work here, at least in some lines? or is it selective breeding.

Ive come to the conclusion that although its been proved that at least some 'coral snows' were homo for strawberry (or at least het?) that other pink snows lines like neon, pink and green, etc that were put down to selective breeding alone could possibly have strawberry influence and so people are keen to test these too?

 

[Tara80]

I suggest checking out what I had said previously. There is already a lot of research that has been done on this gene and a lot still going on. I really wish I could link the thread and I have no idea why I cannot. Pritzel, Hurley and Soderberg have been obtaining pretty consistent results based on the interaction of Strawberry with ghosts, snows etc- and they have a lot of it recorded over on that site. It is way to much for me to cut and paste here.

 

[TandJ]

Thats part of the problem, the names getting thrown around never helps..

There is some thought that there are a few other genetics in play with snows, which seemingly only affect snows, and some genetics that seem to affect snows and other morphs from the same lines.. What it is, I don;t think all of them have be ID'ed specificlly... Its will likely take a lot more time to ID each and everything that affects snows, which would take more time that I have to even attempt at this point.. So most times I have to accept some stuff verbatiam, and take other advice with a grain of salt.. Good luck!