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The First Time Corn Snake Owner "Ask Questions" Thread.

Godzilla2000

Queen of Monsters
I hope this is all right, but I think there should be an all encompassing thread for people who are new to raising Corn Snakes as opposed to separate threads on specific questions that could be lumped into on thread.

Well, my inaugural question would be whether or not dividers in a Ten Gallon tank would work for hatchlings? I was contemplating putting them inside the tank communally but after hearing of the snappishness of certain snakes, I'm questioning this decision.
 
10 gallons are pretty cheap and they house hatchlings for about a year. I personally would just buy another 10 gallon.

I am not sure how well you can divide one that would be secure. Because of the inside and rim of the tank, not mentioning on top of that your screen. Are areas a snake can sqeeze through.
 
Well, since I have three htchlings, I need enclosures for three snakes that are pretty well escape proof. I was thinking of using plexiglass and filing the rims to accomodate slipping the plexiglass through the knotch in the frame.
 
Bearing in mind the need to create a thermal gradient for each of your new hatchlings I suggest buying 3 10 gallon tanks. It will make getting the temperatures right easier and you'll be able to keep the snakes in there for longer as they grow.
 
who is they??? I often keep hatchlings in 10 gallon tanks, and I have never found it to be a problem.
 
I know I'm new but that's what a friend of mine keeps her corn in. In fact she's getting ready to upgrade the tank since its a yearling.

Right now I have two in a 20 gal. Long. But after reading posts here I'm serparating them as soon as my boss gives me her 50 gal tank. I was going to split it in half But now I'm thinking it would be easier to borrow one of my mother's 10 gal. And saving the 50 for when they get bigger.

Can a full grown snake live in a 20 gal long? The size is 30 X 12 X 12. I'm thinking I could keep one in the 50 and one in the 20, when they get bigger. Or should I plan on getting a 40 or 50 gal in a year?

I took measurements last night I thought they were only 8 and 12. they have grown. My female is 15 and my male is 12.

Jean
 
My belief is that more space is nicer. You certainly could keep one in the 20 and one in the 50, but it would be nicer to have them both in 50s if you have the money and space to do so. I keep my adults in vision cages that are 36 x 28.
 
I'm just wondering, if the hatchlings are all different morphs but around the same size, would it be okay to keep them communally but with supervision for awhile?
 
so you plan to watch them for 24 hours a day do you? and separate them immediately if they play nasty?
 
I've never had any problems with housing hatchlings together. Depending on how young they are, I'm sure you could keep them in the 10 gallon for a little while. Normally, if you have more than one hatchling together, they seem to help each other with security. Everytime I check on my hatchlings, I can be sure that they are all coiled into one ball together. They're too young to breed, and most have been together since they were hatched, so they're normally not aggressive with each other. I seperate them once they're about 6 months old or so. Any "trouble makers" are sperated earlier of course. It does help save space, and if I do need to seperate them, I normally pick up a little 5 gallon plastic cage (the ones with the handles) until they're big enough for a ten gallon. They do sell lights and small heating pads made especially for them, so they work pretty good for small snakes. If they are housed alone, I don't like to put my juvies into large tanks. It may just be me, but in a smaller space, hatchlings seem to be a little less elusive. I don't want them to feel "lost" in a huge 10 gallon (well, huge to them) as a hatchling, so until they NEED a bigger enclosure, they stay in a smaller one. Some snakes (especially burmese pythons) can get very stressed if their enclosure is too big. It normally makes them very insecure because the "vastness" of their surroundings is so big. Thats just how I do it though. It seems to work. My yearlings normally go into ten or 15 gallon tanks until they get over 2 to 2 1/2 feet. All of my adults (unless they are unusually large) go into 20 gallon long tanks by themselves and they all do fine. Once breeding season rolls around, I have a handful of 50 gallons that I use so both the male and female have plenty of room.
 
Hmmmm....I do have plenty of those 5 Gallon plastic pet pals lying around from long departed Tarantulas, mostly males who don't live as long as females, so the plastic critter keeper idea is a can do. Generally, what brand of lights and heating pads should I invest in so I can tell my petstore what I need? If they can't get them, I guess I'd have to buy them online or something.
 
I'm not sure what kind of heating pad it is, but its made specifically for plastic tanks that are under 10 gallons. I think zoo med makes them but I'm not sure. Also, there is a light made specifically to fit in the little plastic square flip up lid that works perfect for my young corns. You can pick those up at just about any petco. If your local store doesn't have them, check out Dr. Fosters and Smith. They send a free monthly catalogue that caters to whatever kind of pet you have, inclding herps. They're pretty inexpensive (about $10.00 each). They're small but they light up pretty well and give off decent heat.
 
Hi I just got my first corn which is also my first snake, not sure of the age, got him from some crappy pet shop in my area that prolly needs to be shut down, saw the lady working there cleaning the tanks put a corn and a king in the same container. I, a person who dosent even know much about snakes, knows that was just a careless move. But the snake is eatting pinkies at the moment they go down really quick, and after a little while it's back to prowling around the tank like it just had a little snack. Was just wondering if maybe I should offer it more than one? Thanks in advance.
 
I thought I'd put my two cents in, I had four hatchlings this spring and I kept them in a 20 gallon. The first couple of days they did bite eachother but nothing serious, any scaring disappered within one or two sheds. I did have mommy in with them not to sure why I did that but I did, and after feeding the hatchlings mommy smelt mouse so she tried to eat one of her babies. I saved it in time and yes a very close call at that. I guess I was trying something at the time, wanted to seperate the male and female. Mommy is a normal-motley and she's not to big right now, I need to beef her up for next spring. So I thought I'd separate them first and put mom in with her babies. It only lasted a couple of weeks but never again will I do that. All the hatchlings bite me when ever I try to handle them, but thats normal for a hatchling. I sold my first snake to a petstore, a male snow.

What im tring to say is that housing hatchlings together is ok if you follow a couple of steps:

- Feed them separatley
- Give them a bath after feeding or wipe them down
- Place them in different areas when putting them back in the viv
by doing that, if they are still in hunting mode they will not smell mouse on their sibblings and the chances of them eating eachother or bitting eachother is very slim.

Hope this helps someone out there.
 
Well, I've figured out why Elle was being so defensive. Not only did she have to go through the stress of being shipped in a cramp little deli cup, but she shed on me last night while I was away at work. I had to help her pull off some skin near her tail, but she has fully shed now and is looking great. I was just wondering, is there was a waiting period between shedding and feeding a newly shed snake?
 
I would most definately *not* give them a bath right after eating. Big change theyre so upset they just regurg.

Godzilla2000 just go ahead and see if he eats. Usually their pretty hungry after shedding. You can feed them just before shedding to. Some snakes prefer not to eat at that point though.
 
Jicin said:
Godzilla2000 just go ahead and see if he eats. Usually their pretty hungry after shedding. You can feed them just before shedding to. Some snakes prefer not to eat at that point though.

Okay. I wasn't quite sure. With inverts you have to wait like a week for the exoskeleton to harden especially the fangs. I wasn't sure of snakes had a waiting period to let themselves calm down after the stressful task of shedding their skin.
 
To get back to the original question...

I have a 20gal long that is very successfully divided with acrylic.
Cut it to the exact size...notch out the plastic rim and slide it in...I sealed it with aquarium sealant...and it is VERY sturdy...I also use a center hinged screen top with clips so I can open the sides individually. I just gooped any of the holes large enough for a snake to go from one side to the other with the aquarium sealant.

I also have two 40gal tanks that are divided the same way...one I completely rebuilt the front with acrylic so it has two doors on the front...and all edges are sealed...with a piece of acrylic that cover half the top...and a piece of aluminum screen the covers the other half...all sealed down...it is probably one of the most secure and easy access tanks I own...but it was a HUGE pain to build...and with my limited experience with acrylic...not as pretty as I would like.

I have another 40gal that is divided...and working well...but I am going to pull the front glass out and rebuild it the same way as the other tank.

I have never had a problem with the acrylic and aquarium sealant...if you ever want to remove it to use the larger tank, it is very easily removed with a razor scraper.
 
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