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Tub sizes for racks

replover

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Now that you guys have helped me with the setup format of snake racks (thanks), I'm trying to decide what tub size I should get for my first rack.

Question 1)
If I wanted to build a snake rack that can house corns from hatchlings until they are 3 years old, what sized tub floorspace (never mind the height) should I get? Forget about building a small one for a second, just a big one that lasts from day 0 to the last day of year 3.

Question 2) If the above is not a possibility, then I have a choice of:

1) Building a rack that is big enough for adults, thus saving on rebuilding later. And putting the snakes in there right away (babies).
2) Building a rack that is big enough for adults as above, keeping the snakes in lunch box sizes plastic tubs and just putting them into the rack with lids on near the heating, for 2 - 3 months, so they grow big enough and then switch them over to the big tubs that fit the racks. The snakes will arrive here by the end of august, and it will still be hot here. If the snakes can grow big enough by november to be in the big tubs without negative effect, this seems good. But I don't know what size they will be by november. I will feed them normally, not too much, not too little.
3) Building a small rack with tubs that are 10 X 16 inches in floor space. Keeping them there until they outgrow them, and build a new rack and have the other rack lie around wasting space which is in shortage here until I get babies 3 years or so later. I CAN fit more racks, but no point in living with less space due to a rack that is empty for 3 years.

Which sounds better? As you can probably tell, I hate option 3. But give me YOUR opinion please.

Also, for hatchlings, what sized airholes can I safely drill that will be sure that my snake cannot escape from it? Do I need more holes? Because I plan to enlarge these holes and use the same tub if I go for option 1.

I currently have tubs that are completely crystal clear plastic but are 10 X 16 inches only in floor space. They are good as I can see the snakes which is fun. But they are obviously not going to be big enough eventually (how long?)

I also can buy these tubs that are ALMOST clear, that while not as long, have the same floor space as a 20 gallon long.

I live outside USA and the stearlite or rubbermaid numbers mean nothing to me, as here in Hong Kong, we do not get those brands in any size bigger than sandwhich boxes.
 
By the way, I will be housing 9 corn hatchlings, one leaucistic rat snake baby and two western hognose hatchlings from the start.
I know the rat is gonna be big and I will put it in something else later.

Thanks.
 
One more thing. For people who don't use racks, who just stack a few sweater boxes on top of each other like in the first photo here:

http://www.kingsnake.com/sandboa/housing.html

How do you heat it?

I think for the smaller boxes, I should use a small width heat tape. Like 3 or 4 inch flexwatt. But while I've been told here that 11 inch is overkill, I've also been told that 3 and 4 inch are waiting disasters even with thermostats or rheostats, that they will melt themselves and cause a fire hazard. How true is this?
 
I stck boxes, no one is a good size from dday 0 to year 3 because then they are pretty much fully grown, use a 12 qt for a hatcling and a 28 for anything over a yearling,
 
How much floor space is 12 quart and 28 quart?

How long will a 16 inch X 10 inch floorspace house a corn for, starting from hatchling?
 
replover said:
How much floor space is 12 quart and 28 quart?

How long will a 16 inch X 10 inch floorspace house a corn for, starting from hatchling?
a 28qt has about the same floor space as a 20L a 12q has about half of that i tihnk, a 10x 16 will last under a year.
 
Hi. Would it be possible for you to please tell me the floor space in inches? Like I said, I live in China, and I have never seen any rubbermaids, steralites, or any of those brands in my life.
I have no idea what floor space a 20l, 28 quart, 12 quart or any of that means translated to floor size. I have researched this extensively and these seem to be volume measurements, not floor space.

Please let me know what this means in terms of inches X inches in floor space.
 
By telling me that a 28 quart is the same as a 20 l really means nothing to me as I have no idea what floor space a 20l is. I have never seen any of these brands of boxes you use in the west. From what I know, these are volume measurements, not area??
 
I am sorry, a 30L has a floor space of about 30x12x12 a 28qt has floor space of about 17.5x24x6 and a 12 qt is like 17.5x12x6 i tihnk. anymore questions?
 
Thanks!

So for hatchlings up to about a year, I can use 12 qt = 17.5x12x6 inches,
and for anything older, I use 28qt = 17.5x24x6 ?

Should the 28 quart 17.5x24x6 be enough to house it for life?
And is it ok to start right away with 17.5x24x6 from hatchling time, if I give it more hides around the place?

Actually the closest of those available here are 16.5 X 22 X 6, but I think that should be close enough...
 
yea that is close enough and it will be large enough for it whole life, you can start a hatchling in one, but you have to make sure it is really sucure and use a bunch of binder clips.
 
The binder clips are to hold the lid onto the container! this is what they look like......
 

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Oh. I wasn't gonna use any lids. Was gonna make the racks so that the top is against the bottom of the shelf above...
 
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