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Varying Temperaments in Morphs by Color?
- Thread starter Jake Levi
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I'm not sure that I've heard anything about morphs having to do with temperament, but who knows? I will put in my two cents though, since you are planning on buying a bloodred (or some variation).
I just brought my 5 month old bloodred home about a week ago, and he has already taken a meal and shed (in one perfect piece, too) in that time. Maybe it's just beginners luck, but he's got a great temperament. He didn't even take any time to settle in. He was out roaming around right away, loves being handled, and is completely relaxed. If that's any indication, I'd say go for the bloodred.
Also, the shipping shouldn't be a problem. I picked mine up in the city nearest me, so I haven't actually done it, but I've heard as long as you check the weather and whatnot they do fine. Good luck!
I just brought my 5 month old bloodred home about a week ago, and he has already taken a meal and shed (in one perfect piece, too) in that time. Maybe it's just beginners luck, but he's got a great temperament. He didn't even take any time to settle in. He was out roaming around right away, loves being handled, and is completely relaxed. If that's any indication, I'd say go for the bloodred.
Also, the shipping shouldn't be a problem. I picked mine up in the city nearest me, so I haven't actually done it, but I've heard as long as you check the weather and whatnot they do fine. Good luck!
Dreamsnake
New member
I meant for your wife.
I was getting ready to go out and noticed that the snake who typically hides all day was out dancing around with his tongue flickering. I took him out and he shot up my arm and coiled my neck. I had wet hair at the time and Balthazar has never gone under wet hair before. So I made an experiment and tested it out. Long story short he likes the cherry blossom lotion over every other lotion or scent I own.
The nail polish trick I discovered with lizards first and happily noticed snakes go for it as well. Our first snake was a hateling and only let me pick him up with painted nails.
Naagas
Deserae :)
Hmm... I will have to experiment with different lotions!
carnivorouszoo
Crazy Critter Lady
Hmm, well as far as temperament goes here is my experience:
1. Amel got at a year old, so poorly fed he still looked like he just hatched. Did the s shape a lot, rattled the tail a few times, quickly came around now loves being held.
2. Anery (might be dark ghost, really need a hypo male to test grrr) got as a hatchling, from the start would come to my hand to come out of the enclosure. Slither right up my arm. Bit once when I went 4 days late on feeding due to everyone having the flu.
3. Amel Mot het Caramel Stripe. Got as hatchling. From the start jumpy, tail rattling, bitey on feed day, almost every feed day, but only constricted me once. First day after digesting, calm sweetheart, after than back to normal lol.
4. Classic het Amel mot or stripe: Hatched myself. Bit me the day he came out of the egg. After that very mellow sweet guy.
5. Classic Stripe het Butter: Got as hatchling. Never any issues, very laid back and easy going.
6. Amel het anery: Got as an adult (Sr?) this thirteen year old guy is so laid back it scares me sometimes. I think its just that I did not have him the whole 13 years so I did not get to see him slow down. Sometimes he will go a whole minute without a visable breath or movement. Now that is a heartattack waiting to happen to me!
Of course then there are the pair of Classic het lavendars I had that both escaped when we were not home (kind of suspicious given what was going on then but can't prove anything) they were all bite! I had a Jungle that looked identical to a california king except the split scute before the vent. Bite bite bite! Also had a yellow jungle male very mellow for me until he settled in then he would bite any female that came near him. His bites actually hurt, he twisted his head once latched on to get maximum rippage. He had to go with full disclosure. I also had a bloodred hatchling that just up and disappeared during a negative time when other things also disappeared, but could not prove anything. He was so sweet! He was doing something odd too, every shed he had more white on him. I wanted so badly to see what would happen with that.
Anyway, I have yet to see a corn that was down right nasty myself. Scared, possibly abused in the past, but not just plain nasty.
1. Amel got at a year old, so poorly fed he still looked like he just hatched. Did the s shape a lot, rattled the tail a few times, quickly came around now loves being held.
2. Anery (might be dark ghost, really need a hypo male to test grrr) got as a hatchling, from the start would come to my hand to come out of the enclosure. Slither right up my arm. Bit once when I went 4 days late on feeding due to everyone having the flu.
3. Amel Mot het Caramel Stripe. Got as hatchling. From the start jumpy, tail rattling, bitey on feed day, almost every feed day, but only constricted me once. First day after digesting, calm sweetheart, after than back to normal lol.
4. Classic het Amel mot or stripe: Hatched myself. Bit me the day he came out of the egg. After that very mellow sweet guy.
5. Classic Stripe het Butter: Got as hatchling. Never any issues, very laid back and easy going.
6. Amel het anery: Got as an adult (Sr?) this thirteen year old guy is so laid back it scares me sometimes. I think its just that I did not have him the whole 13 years so I did not get to see him slow down. Sometimes he will go a whole minute without a visable breath or movement. Now that is a heartattack waiting to happen to me!
Of course then there are the pair of Classic het lavendars I had that both escaped when we were not home (kind of suspicious given what was going on then but can't prove anything) they were all bite! I had a Jungle that looked identical to a california king except the split scute before the vent. Bite bite bite! Also had a yellow jungle male very mellow for me until he settled in then he would bite any female that came near him. His bites actually hurt, he twisted his head once latched on to get maximum rippage. He had to go with full disclosure. I also had a bloodred hatchling that just up and disappeared during a negative time when other things also disappeared, but could not prove anything. He was so sweet! He was doing something odd too, every shed he had more white on him. I wanted so badly to see what would happen with that.
Anyway, I have yet to see a corn that was down right nasty myself. Scared, possibly abused in the past, but not just plain nasty.
Dreamsnake
New member
I do experiments with my animals to understand them better. Every science fair from when I was in grade school had something to do with animal behavior (except for that one crystal fiasco.) I was hoping someone would do some scent field work with their own snakes and see what reactions they get. Balthazar may be unique, or it may be the start of some new scientific understanding.
josie
New member
I have 8 hatchlings, 6 are from the same breeder and some are siblings.
Both of my snow stripes have been calm from day one. I let the little kids handle them because they are so calm.
I have two butters, one is a butter stripe, both need a lot of handling. Both have bit me but they are so small it didn't hurt. One was in blue and the other hasn't been handled a lot.
I have two Caramels, one is a stripe I just got yesterday and a total spaz but should calm down like the sibling.
I have a female hypo who has been a total sweetheart from day one. She is another one that I let the kids hold.
I have a female amel who is also very calm and sweet.
I just purchased a male bloodred but he cannot be shipped yet because it's still to cold.
Both of my snow stripes have been calm from day one. I let the little kids handle them because they are so calm.
I have two butters, one is a butter stripe, both need a lot of handling. Both have bit me but they are so small it didn't hurt. One was in blue and the other hasn't been handled a lot.
I have two Caramels, one is a stripe I just got yesterday and a total spaz but should calm down like the sibling.
I have a female hypo who has been a total sweetheart from day one. She is another one that I let the kids hold.
I have a female amel who is also very calm and sweet.
I just purchased a male bloodred but he cannot be shipped yet because it's still to cold.
Reptilekyle64
New member
This is a pretty neat thread, On one of my book readings I cant rember what book, But it went a lil depth about why snakes reacted or behaved they way they did along with color. If I rember correctly it went the better the camouflage of the animal the easier its temperment was, I am sure there wouldent be good solid facts for this but I suppose if your predation chances were lower, you would not need such agreesive tatics. I tend to think back to turtles and the reason why snapping turtles are aggresive if becuse they evloved to not be able to fit in there shell and the X result was to adapt to become more aggrsive to avio higher rates of predation. Not the same thing as snakes but still cool if your into the behavior of reptiles.
Off topic but a Crazy good book with lots of hard bigs words in it is "Snakes Ecology and Behavior " by Richard A. Seigel and Joseph T. Collins , Its a bit expensive and apprently a college type course book. but if your into snakes I havent found a more in depth book ever. I kinda just went off on this post randomly so plz dont hate me XD
Off topic but a Crazy good book with lots of hard bigs words in it is "Snakes Ecology and Behavior " by Richard A. Seigel and Joseph T. Collins , Its a bit expensive and apprently a college type course book. but if your into snakes I havent found a more in depth book ever. I kinda just went off on this post randomly so plz dont hate me XD
stephen
corn breeder
Color
I would agree with that camouflage may play a part in temperaments in snakes in the wild,but dont think it applies to snakes in captivity.From breeding animals that were very calm, easy to care for animals I produced more animals of the same or even some that were calmer then the originals. I found that by selective breeding for temperment produced animals that broke the rules of keeping cornsnakes in captivity.
I would agree with that camouflage may play a part in temperaments in snakes in the wild,but dont think it applies to snakes in captivity.From breeding animals that were very calm, easy to care for animals I produced more animals of the same or even some that were calmer then the originals. I found that by selective breeding for temperment produced animals that broke the rules of keeping cornsnakes in captivity.
ShenziSixaxis
Sticking To The Ceiling
I would think temperaments would vary depending on the raising and lineage of the corn. One line of bloodreds might be the sweetest things ever, and one might be the nastiest non feeders ever.
What you should do is find a few different sources for what you want, then check the Board of Inquiry for how sales have gone with them. You should also email any sources a lot before purchasing, let them know you want PETS that are very tame, yet curious. A good breeder should know what lines are like that.
Just my 2 cents.
What you should do is find a few different sources for what you want, then check the Board of Inquiry for how sales have gone with them. You should also email any sources a lot before purchasing, let them know you want PETS that are very tame, yet curious. A good breeder should know what lines are like that.
Just my 2 cents.
Temperaments
Thanks, I was planning on doing that but hadnt thought of the Board of Inquiry, I'll do that. Temperament has one of the highest coefficient of all traits, in all creatures, its often connected with libido , but often when libido isnt a question, bad temperament produces bad temperament. I was wondering if color morphs affected it also but doubt that now.
Thanks, I was planning on doing that but hadnt thought of the Board of Inquiry, I'll do that. Temperament has one of the highest coefficient of all traits, in all creatures, its often connected with libido , but often when libido isnt a question, bad temperament produces bad temperament. I was wondering if color morphs affected it also but doubt that now.