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Viv Size for a Corn?

I've read that it's ok for adults to live in a 20g, but a 30g is better. If you have a young snake, a 20g will house them comfortably for a year or two.
 
The biggest mistake I made when I got my first snake was buying the wrong thermometers. The stick-on ones they sell in pet stores are extremely innacurate. Get a digital indoor/outdoor thermometer instead. It gives two separate temp readings and many of them show humidity levels as well. They can be found for $5-10 at Walmart or somewhere similar.
 
For temperature, I'd say 75 degrees on the cool side of the tank and 85 degrees on the warm side.
 
At the bare minimum for an adult, you should have a 20gal long tank with at least two hides and a water bowl. Many people add decorations and whatnot to their vivs to make it look more natural- fake branches, vines, greenery, etc. You want your temps to be around 70-75 on the cool side and 80-85 on the hot side. I think humidity is supposed to be between 40-70, but I'm not positive about that.

If you are starting with a baby, they tend to do better in a smaller viv, as it's less scary and stressful for them, and then bump them up to a bigger viv as they grow. Many people find that a 10gal is a suitable size for a baby corn. If you're getting a baby, make sure there's a lot of hides so it can feel very secure in it's environment.
 
Having three hides set up like that is very nice, but not absolutely necessary. You could get away with just two (one on warm, one on cool). If money is tight, I suggest making the hides yourself out of things you have lying around. I was able to make some using plastic plant pots I had in the garage. It was easy and the snake loves them.

Oh, and I forgot to mention humidity. It's not too important for corn snakes, so many people don't worry about it. If you notice your snake is nearing a shed, you can spray some water in the tank to help during that time.
 
I recomend purchasing the book The Corn Snake Manual by Kathy Love. She's one of the top people in the Cornsnake world (and a member here!) it is an invalubale source of info.
 
this_name's_corny said:
20g? 30g? you tell me!
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20 gallon long is the way to go. No matter what size you pick, you should go with a long type tank. Just remember this as you go up in tank size:
1. There will be more space to clean
2. It will be harder to find your corn for feeding/handling
3. You'll use more substrate each time you clean the tank out
4. If there are regurge(s) they will be harder to find.

That's all I can say...
 
this_name's_corny said:
about what range are the temps/ humidity?

I've heard from so many sources totally different details.:headbang::headbang::headbang:
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Temperature should be around 88 degrees on the warm side, and around 80 degrees on the cool side. Humidity isn't that important for corns, as long as you don't live in an overly dry place (Arizona etc.) or and overly humid place (Florida, south America). You may want to moniter humidity at shedding time, just to make sure the tank is humid enough for a good shed, but that's debatable.

I would also recommend going out to your local pet store and buying Kathy Love's book and Don Soderburg's book. If you can;t find them at the pet store, look on Amazon.com.
 
patm1313 said:
Temperature should be around 88 degrees on the warm side, and around 80 degrees on the cool side. Humidity isn't that important for corns, as long as you don't live in an overly dry place (Arizona etc.) or and overly humid place (Florida, south America). You may want to moniter humidity at shedding time, just to make sure the tank is humid enough for a good shed, but that's debatable.

Also, humidity during the winter months tends to drop indoors, as heaters dry the air out.
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patm1313 said:
Temperature should be around 88 degrees on the warm side, and around 80 degrees on the cool side.
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The cool side is too warm. Ideally you should have a 10F difference for a proper thermal gradient.

Stick with 80 - 85 warm side and 70 - 75 cool side.

20 gal long is acceptable for an adult Corn, but if you can go bigger, then that's great.

As others have said, get yourself a good book (I recommend Kathy Love's).

With regards to the actual snake, well done for going with a breeder. There are many breeders here on CS.com, and quite a few are based in California. I believe nearly all of them are FedEx certified, and will ship to you on a next day basis (in the morning). There are two in California that I know of, here's the links to their websites:

www.lowbellyreptiles.com
www.tandjscorns.com

All the best

David
 
this_name's_corny said:
thanks guys.

all i need now is to convince my parents...

:cool::cool: :madeuce:
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The best way to convince your parents is for you to be knowledgeable of corns. They will ask many questions, and you need to have an immediate answer. Offer to purchase the corn and all of its supplies and food with your own money. This takes the cost off of them, and shows that you are responsible.
 
You can find breeders near you at the ACR website: http://www.herpregistry.com/acr/map.php

There are many here in sunny CA. Stick with the breeders, you are most likely to do well. I have had good luck with snakes shipped from out-of-state too; special thanks to Rich Z here for Remus, our '06 1.0 Lav het Bloodred, he's a real winner - and Rich is a real pleasure to do business with too, IMHO).

As for viv size large and low, but with some climbing room. I have a viv I built for our young 'uns with split-level housing; a 28 gt tub (cut down to 4" height with a soldering iron) filled with coconut-coir below with a low roof for 1 large moist-er and warmer hide (it's where the UTH goes - on a tile) and astro-turf above with water bowl/climbing branch/hide. Footprint of the two levels is approx 22.5w x 16d x 4h (& 8h second-level - total cage height 12"). When they grow up, we have them in standard 40gl reptile keepers. It's pretty easy to convert an entertainment center or armoire or such as long as it's deep enough, and they are easy to find cheap (or free) on craigslist.

Knowledge is power. Follow the advice of those above; read, read, read.
 
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