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weird color forming

maegann

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I was holding one of Bonnie's all white babies, only two in the whole litter of 13, and I noticed that she isn't all white at all! At this point all of the other ones who have color are really dark, so its not that their colors arent developed yet. I could really use ur input on what color you think she will be. She seems to have the lightest hooded pattern I have ever seen...
 

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or maybe hooded with a wide stripe, the lighting kind of obscures it. Definitely looks blue though, what do the others look like? That pic is certainly not an all-white rat.
 
as soon as bonnie stops feeding them i will get pics of the others. here are pics of the momma and pappa...
she is the smooth coat brown and he is the grey/white hodded rex

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ps...these are old pics but they really show off their colors
 
ok, the first pics are of the two "white" ones with some of their brothers and sisters. after looking at the first one, i noticed that the other white one isnt white either. the last pic is just the "white" ones together
 

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thnx everyone. the only reason why i asked was because they have never produced anything other than brown/white or grey/white. thanx for ur haelp everyone.
 
They could be caused by one of three genes - you won't find out which til later on. That gives six possibilities as to colour since one parent is agouti based and the other is non-agouti ... the eyes will probably be your best indicator.

1. Red eye dilute: Misleadingly named, if they grow to have dark ruby, almost black eyes, then they'll be caused by this gene. An agouti based RED rat (A-rr) is topaz - this is a ticked warm golden colour, with white guard hairs, and a blue undercoat. A non-agouti based RED rat (aarr) is buff - this is a warm, mushroom magnolia colour all over.

2. Pink eye dilute: Not so misleadingly named! Bright pink eyes, like an albino. An agouti based PED rat is a silver fawn - this is a ticked bright orange, white guard hairs, and no real undercoat colour. The non-agouti version is champagne, which can be quite similar to beige (usually paler), and of course those brilliant pink eyes.

3. Himalayan: In your kittens this would be expressing as Siamese (chch). This would have red eyes, not so pale as to be pink but not so dark they could be mistaken for black. You'd notice that the colour doesn't seem very even, maybe getting darker towards the tail, then at 5-6 weeks old they'd moult out to a very pale colour with slight markings at the nose and tailbase.


I would guess, if I had to, that they're most likely red eye dilute colours. The red eye dilute gene is really common in American rats, with the pink eye dilute gene being rarer (exactly the opposite situation in the UK). Time will tell though!
 
Interesting info on the different dilute genes.

If red eye dilute and american blue are both present what is that called? I have a hoodie male and he looks almost albino white but I can discern a very faint hood on him, it looks like a faintly silver or grey-tinged white.

Parents are a beige/red eye dilute female het for blue and a black berkshire male het for blue and red eye dilute.
 
Flagg said:
Interesting info on the different dilute genes.

If red eye dilute and american blue are both present what is that called? I have a hoodie male and he looks almost albino white but I can discern a very faint hood on him, it looks like a faintly silver or grey-tinged white.

Parents are a beige/red eye dilute female het for blue and a black berkshire male het for blue and red eye dilute.

Red eye dilute plus American blue has a few different names. It is not a standardised variety at all as far as I can tell, though some people do show it as platinum (it is completely the wrong colour for my tastes though - and the standard more importantly!). Because there is no agreed name, I would probably call it blue-buff, or simply British blue based buff - that makes it very clear what you're dealing with.
 
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