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What about in Texas?

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AggieTiff

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I am from Texas, and I was just curious if anyone has ever come across them anywhere here. I know that the guttata gutta species have a range that covers New Jersey through Florida to Lousiana, and that the guttata emoryi species ranges as far west as Utah and south to Mexico. I just wasn't sure if anyone has actually ever come across either one of these guys here in the wild. If so, where were you at?
 
I caught a corn in Texas. I set out a snake trap and caught a creamsicle that escaped five days earlier from my rack system.

After 5 days on the run it was pretty wild , too....So I guess it was in fact "wild caught."
 
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Elaphe guttata sp.

We find E. g. emoryi all over around here (Dallas/Ft. Worth). And according to Werler & Dixon - Texas Snakes, Identification, Distribution, and Natural History, there are E. g. guttata in eastern Texas with various sighting all over the state (not very pretty, kind of drab and brown).

If you don't have this book, I would suggest you get it. It's around $50.00, and hard backed and about 460 pages...worth every penny, but a little to big for a field guide!

Brian Miller
BC Reptiles
 
Brian,

I noticed that you are scheduled to be at the spring show in Irving. Is this a good show? I've never been to it, but was thinking about going.
 
Gary,

Yes, it is a good show. This will be the second one that has been put on there. The first one was last fall, it was great. This one is supposed to be even bigger, though it is only a 1 day show this time. Lots of vendors and guest speakers. Carl puts on a good, clean, captive bred only show!

Check out the link on my site for info about the show.
http://www.bcreptiles.net/html/links.html#Expos-Shows
He has a partial list of vendors and speakers.

If you come, stop by and say hi,

Brian Miller
BC Reptiles
 
Will do. I should have asked if there are any other shows that you would recommend. I know Houston is in May.

Is Princeton near D/FW?
 
Re: Elaphe guttata sp.

bc_reptiles said:
We find E. g. emoryi all over around here (Dallas/Ft. Worth). And according to Werler & Dixon - Texas Snakes, Identification, Distribution, and Natural History, there are E. g. guttata in eastern Texas with various sighting all over the state

(not very pretty, kind of drab and brown).
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I noticed your description and wondered, "Maybe it's the newly discoved corn snake he's seeing."

Just a thought. Check it out.

http://www.naherpetology.org/detail.asp?id=1235
 
The only snake I have routinely run into in Texas has been the Agkistrodon Piscivorus. That's right, Mocassins.

I can say beyound a shadow of a doubt, that I have absolutely zero interest in conducting a field study of this species.

;)
 
i have caught a cornsnake before in my backyard but it was a lil bit darker than a normal color snake i had a snake specialist think it out
 
Gregg

Gregg:

That is highly possible. The book I was referring to was published in 2000.

Thanks for the info,
Brian Miller
BC Reptiles
 
I can't be sure from this pic, but that looks like it could maybe be a juvenile black rat snake. Especially since it is wild caught; I think that black rats are much more common in Texas than corns are. Anyone else have an opinion?
 
Not a corn, but still a rat snake!

First off, black rats are not common in Texas (they are further northeast of here). What we have here, and what you have caught is a baby Texas Rat Snake (Elaphe obsoleta lindheimerii). The head pattern gives it away and also the blotch count is to low for an Elaphe guttata emoryi (Great Plains Rat Snake).

Texas rats are great little snakes, that get pretty big and like to bite. They are quite common over the eastern 2/3 of the state.

I'm sorry that it's not a corn, but like I said. It's still a rat snake!

Brian Miller
 
Yep, Rat.

I am curious about it. What part of Texas did you find it in? How did you take it, and are you planning on releasing it or keeping it? I am interested in our native species and their conservation, so any details you can provide you be appreciated.
 
well i live in cooper texas that is is east, east texas right buy the oklahoma border. i also plan on keeping this snake to breed to my other rat snake and this is frit time that i have caught this type of rat snake in my county.
 
nj

were in nj are u finding corns? i live in nj and all i find are milk snakes,dk's ribbion's garters and sum water moccinsions(sorry for my spelling) i look all over and i dont find them i know there here... i been looking for at least 4 years now and i can never get any!!!! 1 day i will get him/hur and that will be the day i cnat have anymore snakes..lol....
 
Eddie...

It's illegal to own wild caught corns in NJ. It's even illegal to own CB "normal" colored ones there, I think.
 
as for corn's your llowed to catch them and keep them,there's no permits needed for corn's only deadly snakes.
 
I would check on it, Eddie.

I have a couple of rescues from New Jersey. The rescue I got them from said it is illegal to own "normal" colored ones, and it is illegal to BREED corns in New Jersey just in case you produce "normal" colored ones.

You could probably check with that rescue to get more info. It is All Species Reptile rescue. The website is: http://www.all-species-reptile-rescue.com/

You should be able to find Rachel's (the owner) e-mail info on the site.
 
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