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What can I get ?

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lonewulf

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Hi all .. my name is Gord and I have a few corn snakes.
and want to know what am I going to get with what I have .. I am a little confused with all the morphs and stuff and am trying to figure it out but ...
lol

so here is what I have
Amel Female corn het for ghost
Albino Female het for snow
Anery Motley Male het for caramel

so other than normals what am I going to end up with .. considering the pairings I have ...

they are still very young right now and probably wont breed for 3 years but I plan on raising my breeding group.

thanks for all your help in advance !
Gord
 
Amel het Ghost x Anery Mot het Caramel = normals het amel, anery and mot, anerys het amel and mot (all possibly het for caramel and or hypo)

Amel het Anery (snow) x Anery Mot het Caramel = Normals het amel, anery, and mot, anerys het amel, mot (all possibly het for caramel)

I think these are right, but I just did them in my head. Someone I'm sure will correct me, if I'm wrong.:)
 
lonewulf said:
Amel Female corn het for ghost
Albino Female het for snow
Anery Motley Male het for caramel
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1.0 Anery Motley het Caramel x 0.1 Amel het Anery Hypo =

50% Normal het Amel, Anery, Motley 50% poss. het Caramel, Hypo
50% Anery het Amel, Motley 50% poss. het Hypo

Can't compute the second 0.1 without more info. What do you mean by "Albino"? That term is used to refer to amel (red albino), anery (black albino) and snow (amel + anery).
 
ok

Ye she is red albino

which by the looks of it is the same as Amel ?
she looks alot like my female Amel

I am still infamiliar with the morphs .. so if you can clear that up as well that would be great

thanks
 
lonewulf said:
Ye she is red albino
which by the looks of it is the same as Amel ?
she looks alot like my female Amel
I am still infamiliar with the morphs .. so if you can clear that up as well that would be great
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Yes, "red albino" is the same as Amelanistic. "Het for snow" means het for both amelanism and anerythrism. Since your snake is already Amel, the correct description would be Amel het Anery.

The offspring should be:

75% Normal het Amel, 66% poss. het Anery, 50% poss. het Caramel
25% Anery het Amel + Motley, 50% poss. het Caramel
 
jaxom1957 said:
75% Normal het Amel, 66% poss. het Anery, 50% poss. het Caramel
25% Anery het Amel + Motley, 50% poss. het Caramel
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That's what I get for posting before I've had my coffee. Correction:

50% Normal het Amel, Anery + motley, 50% poss. het Caramel
50% Anery het Amel + motley, 50% poss. Caramel

ie: Your male will always pass along motley, but your female doesn't carry that, so all offspring will be het for motley.

Your female will always pass along Amel, but your male doesn't carry that, so all offspring will be het for Amel.

Your female will always pass along Anery, but there is only a 50/50 chance that the male will as well, so half the offspring will get it from both and be Anery while the other half only gets it from the female and are het Anery.

There is a 50/50 chance that your male will pass along Caramel, so the offspring are "50% poss. Caramel".

Therefor: All offspring het for Amel (from female), as well as Motley (from the male). Half will be Anery (from both), the other half het for Anery (from the female but not the male). Half of the offspring, regardless of the other hets or Anery, will be het for Caramel (from the male).
 
IGNORE THOSE TOO POSTS. I NEED MORE SLEEP BEFORE I BABBLE OUT THE WRONG INFORMATION AGAIN.

Sorry, not enough rack time.
 
jaxom1957 said:
Your female will always pass along Anery, but there is only a 50/50 chance that the male will as well, so half the offspring will get it from both and be Anery while the other half only gets it from the female and are het Anery.
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That's the part I messed up. I flipped the genders. It is the MALE that will always pass along Anery, the FEMALE only half the time. The rest of the statement, including the ratio of offspring, was correct.

I am sorry for the confusion and throw myself on the mercy of the BOI.
 
jaxom1957 said:
I am sorry for the confusion and throw myself on the mercy of the BOI.
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I feel much better with some caffeine in my system, so here goes one you can rely on:

It appears your 0.2 are identical except that one is also het for Hypomelanism. The offspring from each, with your current 1.0, will look identical. The only difference in offspring will be that those from the het Ghost will by 50% poss. het Hypo as well.

Here's the simplified answer:

The clutches from both females will be similar. Half from each will appear normal but be het for anerythrism (from the females), half from each will be anerythristic (from the male and the females).

All of the offspring will be het amel (from the females) and motley (from the male).

All of the offspring have a 50% possibility of being het for Caramel (from the male).

In addition, one female is het for ghost. Ghost is a combination of anerythrism and hypomelanism. We've already included the anery. The offspring of this female will also have a 50% possibility of being het for the second component, hypomelanism.


1.0 Anery Motley het Caramel (your male) x 0.1 Amel het Anery Hypo (Amel Female het for ghost) =

50% Normal het Amel, Anery, Motley 50% poss. het Caramel, Hypo
50% Anery het Amel, Motley 50% poss. het Hypo


1.0 Anery Motley het Caramel (your male) x 0.1 Amel het Anery (Albino Female het for snow) =

50% Normal het Amel, Anery + motley, 50% poss. het Caramel
50% Anery het Amel + motley, 50% poss. Caramel


That's it, I'm done. I promise never to post on three hours sleep and no caffeine ever again. :bang:
 
The male breed to female #1

25% Anerie het butter, het motley
25% het butter, anerie and motley ( normal looking )
25% Anery het amel and motley
25% het snow ( amel and anery combined ) and motley ( normal looking )

The male breed to female #2

Male is, Anerythristic, Motley, Het for Caramel
Female is, Amelanistic, Het for Ghost

Offspring are predicted to be...
12.50%, Anerythristic, Het for Butter, Het for Hypomel, Het for Motley
12.50%, Anerythristic, Het for Butter, Het for Motley
12.50%, Het for Butter, Het for Ghost, Het for Motley
12.50%, Het for Butter, Het for Anery, Het for Motley
12.50%, Anerythristic, Het for Amel, Het for Hypomel, Het for Motley
12.50%, Anerythristic, Het for Amel, Het for Motley
12.50%, Het for Snow, Het for Hypomel, Het for Motley
12.50%, Het for Snow, Het for Motley

Regards... Tim of T and J
 
ok

so basically what I am going to get are normals .. but het for amel or anery lol

wow that is alot of calculations for normals ...

I was hoping to get snows or ghosts, my thinking was that hets meant that there was a "chance" that I would get what they were het for.

wow do I have alot to learn lol
 
lonewulf said:
so basically what I am going to get are normals .. but het for amel or anery lol
I was hoping to get snows or ghosts, my thinking was that hets meant that there was a "chance" that I would get what they were het for.
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Not just normals. Half of the babies should be anerythristic, meaning no red or orange. Believe me, the anery babies will stick out.

The only way hets in the parents give you anything but normals is if both parents either have the same het or one has the het and the other one IS that trait. The reason half of your babies will be anery is that your male IS anery, and both of your females are HET to anery.

Even your normal babies will be popular. They will be at least triple het:
Amel, Anery, Motley

Possibly quadruple het:
Amel, Anery, Motley, Caramel
Amel, Anery, Motley, Hypo

Or even QUINTUPLE het:
Amel, Anery, Motley, Caramel + Hypo

Heck, if you don't like them, send them to me! :licklips:
 
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