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What is my corn?

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mrgoogls

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hey guys. i am new here, and of course i have my corn. when i bought him i was only 7. so i just got him from pet co and they dont know morphs or anything(i dont either, that why im asking this...lol) so what kind of morph is he/she?


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i know they are really bad pictures. i will try to get some more either tonight or tomoro. if you can try and tell me thanks. i know its hard to tell from pictures. even more so with bad ones. lol.
 
thanks guys! i heard of that before and new that mine looked like it but wasnt sure. i also heard somebody call it like a starburst or fireburst or something like that. but it looked the same. misinformation maybe? and what makes a some snakes with the same morph better than others? i heard words like "het" and stuff. i am really really interested in the morphs and stuff. it is so cool. so can u give me like a mini crash course on corn snake morphs:D and thanks for the compliments on him/her!


also, if i were to breed hi/her(i would find out for sure wheater its male or female if i breed) with another alem(also a good one) how much could babies go for? i know it depends on the area and demand and it could change over time, but just esimate. price for good quality baby amels. would be raised with good quality too of course.
 
hmmmm, i was hoping a bit more. and i dont want to sound greedy. and i am NOT wanting to breed to make money. i want to do it for fun.(and because i LOOOOVE baby snakes:D) but i want to try to at least ALMOST break even so i dont run totaly out of $$$. so, again, not to be greedy but, is there another morph that i could cross breed with an amel to possibly get more $$?1
 
i also got a BIT better pics of my snake. to give you a better idea of how good he/she is.ill post them later
 
mrgoogls said:
hmmmm, i was hoping a bit more. and i dont want to sound greedy. and i am NOT wanting to breed to make money. i want to do it for fun.(and because i LOOOOVE baby snakes:D) but i want to try to at least ALMOST break even so i dont run totaly out of $$$. so, again, not to be greedy but, is there another morph that i could cross breed with an amel to possibly get more $$?1
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Most people who breed as a hobby are lucky to break even. In a good year I cover the cost of the food bill for the year, including the pinkies to start the hatchlings on and the chicks and large mice for my adults. It doesn't even beging to offset the cost of buying my original animals, raising them, the equipment and the electricity bill....... My position is that I'd own the snakes anyway because they are my pets, so they don't owe me a penny. Selling off the hatchlings is just a way of enjoying breeding them and waiting to see those little noses break out of the eggs each year
 
Agree with the above. An Amel is one of the most common and cheapest morphs. Amel is the best you can expect from him, if paired with another Amel. You might get lucky and find that your pair then carries hidden hets, but even then they're likely to be more common cheap ones and it's a lottery as to whether they're there at all.

I do a deal with my local reptile shop - I give them my fertile eggs and get food for the adults at trade price for the rest of the year. Even at the height of my breeding (which I think was 9 clutches from 6 females, when I hatched them and sold the offspring myself), I didn't break even over a year.

There have been a couple of seasons where I've had to near enough give hatchlings away, as the market was either saturated or collapsed due to economic conditions. Those years, the hatchlings cost me money rather than making it.

Never go into Corn breeding for $$. That way lies madness!
 
sorry guys. i worded that wrong and i think you dont understand what i meant because of it. i dont want to break even(well, of course i WANT to but, not really and i know i wont. but who doesnt want to make money? lol). i just want to be able to ALMOST cover like food costs for babies. to buy another adult, i wouldnt want to make money back, because liek you said, its a pet, not a way to make $$. i know i will not make much money if any off of breeding. i want to do it totally for fun. glad we cleared that up:D

so, what could i breed with an amel to make some good babies? caremel(sorry for spelling)? ghost? snow? i dont know. lol. whatwould be a good idea.
 
really?? wow. how come? like i said, i know nothing about the different morphs and genetics. then how do people get like caremel amels and things like that? all this stuff in confusing!
 
i just found a morph that i really like. even though you siad that an amel will only produce normals and amels, i kinda want to buy 2 new snakes to breed. considering that my current corn is getting a bit only to breed(he/she is about 8 or 9 years old, and isnt the max around 10?) so getting 2 new snakes would let me get more clutches and more breeding. the morph i liek(and would like to produce hopefully) is amel stripe. here is afew pics. what would i need to get these? how much would a baby be worth(estimate)

http://www.cornsnakemorphgallery.com/amel-shttp://www.cornsnakemorphgallery.com/amel-stripe/tripe/
 
To produce amel striped corns you would have to buy a pair of amel stripes and raise them up until they were old enough to breed at 3 years old. Then you'd have to hope that they were fertile and that you could successfully incubate the eggs. Then hope all those eggs hatched into healthy hatchlings that ate without too much trouble. Then hope there is a market in your area for amel stripes. Breeding corns is great fun, but seriously, it usually costs far more than you would make back.
For example, this year I set up something like 140 eggs in my incubator. Of those 42 have hatched so far, at least 20 eggs haven't made it to hatching (the clutches were laid over the space of a couple of months, some lost a couple of eggs, some have failed completely) . I pre-ordered 500 pinkies which cost me around $275 at a discounted price. The food bill for my adult snakes is at least $1,000 a year. If I'm lucky I'll maybe sell enough healthy hatchlings to get $1,400 back. My original breeding stock cost me well over £1,000. Some of them have proved infertile and are now pets, some are retired from breeding. My rack system cost well over $200. My incubator cost $75 because I bought it second hand from another breeder. I have no idea how much the heating costs are because it goes in with my household electric bill. Each hatchling has to be feeding properly before I can sell it, which would mean at least 3 pinkies if it eats first time 3 times in a row, or alternatively 6 or more wasted pinks if it's a stubborn feeder.
 
okay, i can dfinatly buy 2 corns. they dont take up much room:D i dont even know for sure if im doing this. if i do i wont even start for a few months because i am getting a bird soon, and that is very expensive. lol. i am also not 100% sure on what i want to breed(morphs). but just for the moment i thought the amel stripes look cool. if the only way i can get an amel stripes is to bree 2 of them, how did someone get the 1st one? and i also know i will spend more than i make on almost any snake breeding unless it is some giant rare python or something. what other snake needs about the same CAGE size as a corn that i might be able to breed? i dont care about the size of the snake just the cage. and i will accept aqll answers except a hognose. i dont like them much. lol
 
mrgoogls said:
okay, i can dfinatly buy 2 corns. they dont take up much room:D i dont even know for sure if im doing this. if i do i wont even start for a few months because i am getting a bird soon, and that is very expensive. lol. i am also not 100% sure on what i want to breed(morphs). but just for the moment i thought the amel stripes look cool. if the only way i can get an amel stripes is to bree 2 of them, how did someone get the 1st one? and i also know i will spend more than i make on almost any snake breeding unless it is some giant rare python or something. what other snake needs about the same CAGE size as a corn that i might be able to breed? i dont care about the size of the snake just the cage. and i will accept aqll answers except a hognose. i dont like them much. lol
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I'll give you some basic genetics. All corn morphs besides normals are mutations. Most Mutations are recessive. For each gene, every organism holds two codes per say. With dominant traits, the organism could hold two of those traits, such as two normal traits and it would visibly show up on them. The only way a recessive trait can visibly show up on the organism. If the organism holds two of the recessive traits. then it will show up on the organism.

Here's an example-Pretend the code for normal pattern is an uppercase N and the code for stripe pattern is n. Note that the normal pattern is dominant and the stripe is recessive.

If a snake has Two normal pattern traits, which I will show as NN, then they will look like a normal cornsnake. Even if they hold one normal trait and one stripe trait- shown as Nn, the snake will look like a normal cornsnake. Only if the snake holds two stripe traits (nn), will it look like a stripe.

Make sense? If so, I can continue.
 
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