I can only speak for myself. I don't hate Pat. In fact, I like Pat, and I think he's been trying hard to fix the behaviors that other members found annoying. His comments in this thread aren't recent, so I don't hold them against him. But he's not going to change the impressions he made overnight. I can't blame other members if they haven't tracked his progress and come to the realization that he's really trying. This has happened with other members-- they had a rough start and then went on to become valued and respected members of this community. Pat's a good kid and I think he's "on track" now. Heck, over half of his rep points have probably come from me. I don't rep people whom I don't like.