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Years to length ratio?

Ghost

Ghost

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It's been a long time since I was last here.... lol
Anyway, my corn is 2 years and 3 months old and is 50 inches long. Is this a good size for his age? is it too large/small? He's fed one adult mouse once a week and was never power fed or under-fed in his life.
Any experienced insight would be great, thanx.
 
thats a big snake for his age, but it still seems fine. Some snakes are just bigger than others, and some mature quicker than others. I has a yearling that was fed the same as my other yearlings, but he still hit almost 30 inches his first year. Sometimes, the bigger a viv is, the more it will allow a snake to grow, so that might be a factor in it. Since he is so big, you might want to move him up to 2 mice a week.
 
Jynx said:
...Sometimes, the bigger a viv is, the more it will allow a snake to grow, so that might be a factor in it...
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Really? I thought that wasn't the case...

Oh, never mind little me...anybody who can clear that up? :sidestep:
 
Snakes will outgrow their tanks... A larger tank does not mean it's going to grow more because it has the room.

I'm not exactly what the food rule is for a larger snake, but I do know that hatchlings will eat much more often than an adult. Tank size has nothing to do with growth, though if it's too crowded, he may be reluctant to eat due to stress caused by insufficiant room to move.

As for the size he is now, I honestly couldn't tell you as my snake is still a hatchling. It sounds about right though... It takes roughly 4-5 years to reach full size. If he's 4 feet now, you can expect another 12-18 inches in the next few (I'm guessing).

:)
 
hiya :wavey:

I think 2 mice a week might be slightly more than needed????

maybe 2 every 10/12 days is better.........experienced ones will know better


thank you
 
marg said:
I think 2 mice a week might be slightly more than needed????

maybe 2 every 10/12 days is better.........experienced ones will know better
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Well, I only have snakes that are under 4 feet, but... Once mine get over 3 feet long, I put them on diets. I never feed mine more than 1 mouse every 2 weeks (except females in breeding season that get fed small meals about every 5 days). Two of my males only get fed 12 mice a year, more than that and they'd get fat.
 
12 mice a year seems so little but i can actually see how that would be the case. either way im sure most wild corns are lucky if they can swing that. As my corn is still growing i vary between feeding one or two mice. As he gets larger, i move from one mouse to a second until he is ready for one of the next size. To prevent him from getting to tubby though i go 5-5-10 as my feeding schedual. With the correct amount of exercise this keeps him slim but still growing strong
 
Ghost said:
It's been a long time since I was last here.... lol
Anyway, my corn is 2 years and 3 months old and is 50 inches long. Is this a good size for his age? is it too large/small? He's fed one adult mouse once a week and was never power fed or under-fed in his life.
Any experienced insight would be great, thanx.
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My snake is only a cupill days old and he is only six inches long he has just ate his first mouse. is it all right to hold him right after he eats or should I wate for a little bit longer so he can start to dijest.
 
the "more room" thing definitly does have an effect, much like a goldfish. If you leave a goldfish in a 1 gallon tank its entire life, it will not exceed a size too large for its enclosures. Enclosure sizes are proven to affect snakes the same way. The difference between size is not as vast as with the goldfish case, but it has been a proven fact in many herps, not just corns. Also, for a snake his age giving two mice a week is not a bad factor. Remember that younger snakes need more caloric intake than older snake because of their metabolic needs. Since your is already so big, he may not need to be on the diet for very long, as most snakes' appetites decrease the older they get. If he's still growing though, you need to support his needs. Of course I haven't seen your snake at all...As for holdong your snake after he eats...definitly a no no. Let him digest for at least 3-5 days before you hold him. Any sooner could lead to digestive problems or regurgitation.
 
Spirit said:
Snakes will outgrow their tanks... A larger tank does not mean it's going to grow more because it has the room.

I'm not exactly what the food rule is for a larger snake, but I do know that hatchlings will eat much more often than an adult. Tank size has nothing to do with growth, though if it's too crowded, he may be reluctant to eat due to stress caused by insufficiant room to move.
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Jynx said:
the "more room" thing definitly does have an effect, much like a goldfish. If you leave a goldfish in a 1 gallon tank its entire life, it will not exceed a size too large for its enclosures. Enclosure sizes are proven to affect snakes the same way. The difference between size is not as vast as with the goldfish case, but it has been a proven fact in many herps, not just corns.
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Hmmm...I'm confused. Could somebody perhaps translate this to idiot for me so I understand... :dunce:

I mean, IF a snake is eating properly, and lives in a small viv, will it outgrow it or not?
If anybody has some information about this, please link it since I'd really like to know for sure.

*realization strikes* My corn is going to be gigantuan!!!!??? :D
 
Marg....."1 snow corn .. 1 year and 2 weeks old .. 16 inches long" I'm thinking that is awfully small for a yearling, my '04 hatchlings are that long now.
:shrugs:
 
I was thinking the same thing 16". Very small for a snake of that age.
Some of my 4 month olds are longer than that.
As for the other argument of Size v Viv size. I have noticed in my snakes that they do seem to grow considerablly quicker when housed in a bigger Viv.
Just my observation.
 
sawsehel said:
Hmmm...I'm confused. Could somebody perhaps translate this to idiot for me so I understand... :dunce:
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LOL! Corn snakes grow between 3-5 feet long (largest of record is 6)

Translation: You can't put an 18" snake in a shoebox, and expect it to stay that size. It WILL outgrow it's home (or live a short miserable one in cramped quarters). Having said that, you also can't put a corn in a 100 gallon tank and expect it to grow to 10 feet long either... :)

Many people here keep multiple snakes in a "rack system". The sterlite boxes are much smaller than aquariums, but the basic floor space is about the same (24x12 - give or take).
 
Spirit said:
Translation: You can't put an 18" snake in a shoebox, and expect it to stay that size. It WILL outgrow it's home (or live a short miserable one in cramped quarters). Having said that, you also can't put a corn in a 100 gallon tank and expect it to grow to 10 feet long either... :)

Spirit is ablsolutly correct. Snakes will always grow. I used the goldfish thing as a comparison. The basis of the experiment that I read about was more kinda like survival. An adult in a 10 gallon will eat less than an adult in say a 20 gallon, not only because it will definitley get too big for its habitat, but also because there is so little room to move or exercise and burn the calories that they ingest. I'll try to find the name of the book that I read it in. Someone actually had like a 6 year experiment on just this, and its really interesting. Nature will still always take control, and what goldfish do is just kind of unnatural, and its definitly a more exaggerated comparison.
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I'm not sure that that's entirely true Jynx. My snakes will eat no matter how often or how much I feed them. I only feed once a week, but they both eat every time. I don't think they'd start refusing food because they become too large for their enclosure especially my amel. She's a ravenous critter. For comparison: she's a June 03 hatchling who is now 39" long and 1" across. My aztec is an Aug 03 hatchling who is 28" long and 1/2" across. Both are in large tanks for their sizes. The amel in a 30 gl. now, and the aztec in the amel's old 10 gl. They just grow at different rates despite being only a few months apart in age. I can't see my aztec growing any faster if I put her in the 30 gl.
 
Spirit said:
Having said that, you also can't put a corn in a 100 gallon tank and expect it to grow to 10 feet long either... :)
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That's what I thought. :D Too bad...

*INSERT MAD LAUGHTER HERE* :crazy02:

I still think my little kaa is aiming for the big league though. She's about 35
cm/14 inches and two months old. She's eating two pinkies every week and it
always looks like she's expecting at least one more. 3 days after she's eaten
she'll poop and then immediately be on the prowl again.

Always hungry it seems... :)
 
Thanx

Well, thanx for all the responses! Could any of you believe that I've never seen an adult corn in person before? lol Amazing eh? :wavey:
 
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