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I visited one of my local pet stores today and to my horror found that the pimpled face kid running the snake section had never heard of the Corn Snake Manual by Kathy Love, didn't really have any good manuals and the store and stated he fed his baby and adult corn in the same tank, live, without removing them from the tank. I was like "WHAT"!?

Please, I emplore all of you who are new or have never read a book about corn care to PLEASE get your hands on a published piece of literature and give it a once through. It doesn't have to be the CSM, just anything. Kathy and her colleagues don't spend their time writing books for nothing, they write because they love the hobby and the animals more than we know. They also know as much as anyone could know about what's "BEST" for snakes.

In life, there are a lot of things you CAN do, but that doesn't mean you should do them. Remember, thats very much true for reptile care.

Good luck, happy reading and PLEASE feel free to PM me (or others) or post if you ever need a little extra help or clarification about something in a text or publication. Many of us have years of experience and love helping!
 
OMG!! That's horrible! :eek1: I guess you know where NOT to shop!! LOL!

Well, I may look new, but I've been lurking here for a while. And although you guys dont' know it, you've helped me thru a case of mites and a bad shed. My poor snake!! LOL! But because of you all she's doing very well and healthy, and I'm becoming more educated and experienced, so I won't do something stupid like that kid at the pet store!!

I love this forum and all it's knowledgeable and helpful snake people! I also own the CSM and it has been invaluable as well.

Thanks homer!
I hope everyone heeds your advice!
 
right back at you, we love seeing new people succeed as much as we love helping!! We all realize we were there once. I didn't put down TCSM for 4 months after I got my snakes.

no, thank YOU for being informed and sharing our passion for our animals.

What method did you end up using for the mites?
 
My cornsnake manual sits right here by the computer for quick reference if needed. It's obviously next to the computer so as I'm reading responses in the snake forum, I can look at it if I want! :) These are rather all consuming critters. I've got to say that I like just sitting in the room and watching her travel around her cage in the evening after her heat lamp goes out. It's fun to watch her investigate.
 
Homer I used the suggestions in this link
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7952&highlight=mites
If I hadn't found it, I think I would not even have know that there could be a difference between wood mites and regular mites. After reading I was fairly certain they were mites because they were imbedded, but I baked my repti bark anyways and sanitized EVERYTHING thoroughly. I even did the vasoline around the top of the tank, despite the fact that I don't have any other snakes!! LOL! I figured I'd do everything possible to slow their progress in and hopefull catch them if they tried to escape!! Don't know if that was really necessary but it made me feel better doing it!!

During the time I gave her the mite treatment she also had opaque eyes, and I knew a shed was coming up soon and thought the olive oil would be good to help that too.
But three days later, I wake up and find shredded shed in her tank. I gave her a moist hide, but it was probably almost too late at that point.
When I came back from work she was really narky and aggitated so I gave her another warm bath only soaked her a little longer and worked the rest of her shed off. It was a really neat experience, though I hope I don't have to do it again. We have a wood burning fire place which sucks the humity out of my house, so next time I'm going to work harder to raise the humidity when I see she's getting ready to shed. Poor thing, I hate that I didnt think of that the first time, but lesson learned I guess....

I think the most rewarding part of helping her with the shed was that as soon as I worked the shed to the tip of her tail she calmed down. She seemed to feel so much better getting out of that old skin. It was just fascinating!!!
She ate a pinkie and enjoyed a relaxing night for the rest of the evening. Lucky gal, I baby her!!

I think looking back, if I hadn't found this place, or even had that book, that I would have freaked out and probably tried to pull the shed off piece by piece...DRY!!

You guys are the greatest!!!
I'm stickin' around!!!

Btw, I have a pink (she's pretty pink but I'm not 100% sure she is classified as a pink) snow corn.
She's only about 14 inches long and lives by herself (of course, those pics I found on here of a snake accidentally eating another snake was enough for me to know not to put another one in with her) . LOL!

See, there's so much on here!! I just love this place!!
Thanks again!
 
actually homer! It was YOUR suggestion on treatment that I used...how ironic!!

And I think the wood mite vs. regular blood sucking mite was on another thread, but valuable none-the-less!
 
u shud of slapped the kid with a wet trout!!!!
no on a serious note, did u try and explain to him what he was doing wrong? and wot might happen if he didnt change?
 
i dont have the CSM....
with the wonderfull people on this forum i`ve never needed it! :D


shame about the petstore though,and by the sound of it petstores in general.... the owners/workers there often don`t know whats best for their animals.
 
Hi my mom says i'm finally old enough to get a corn snake but I have to research it first and i can't seem to find any decent tank information. By that I mean no where yet has told me what type of tank I should use, how big it shou;d be,what to use as bedding, or anything else. All i've learned so far is that there has to be a cool side to the tank and a hot side to the tank. How do i accomplish this?
 
wildernessey said:
OMG!! That's horrible! :eek1: I guess you know where NOT to shop!! LOL!

Well, I may look new, but I've been lurking here for a while. And although you guys dont' know it, you've helped me thru a case of mites and a bad shed. My poor snake!! LOL! But because of you all she's doing very well and healthy, and I'm becoming more educated and experienced, so I won't do something stupid like that kid at the pet store!!

I love this forum and all it's knowledgeable and helpful snake people! I also own the CSM and it has been invaluable as well.

Thanks homer!
I hope everyone heeds your advice!
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elrojo said:
Your join date doesn't make you look new at all!
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Look at the original post date of this thread 2004 he/she was new then.
 
Hi, zombie thread!

I love the Corn Snake Manual. I recently (ok--7 months ago) got my copy of the CSM back after loaning it out to a friend (who subsequently lost it--it was almost 3 years before I got it back!). Have already put it to use a couple times since getting it back... :)

millru, that's all basic info you can find just by browsing the forums and by getting a good book like Kathy Love's Corn Snake Manual or Don Soderberg's Corn Snakes in Captivity.

To answer a few of your questions:
If you use a tank, get a Zilla Critter Cage with the sliding screen top. They're much more secure than an aquarium with a separate lid and clips.

The minimum size for an adult corn snake is a 20 gallon Long (dimensions 30"x12"x12"), but bigger (i.e. 40 gallon Breeder, 36x18x16") is better.

Aspen bedding works great for corn snakes. Never use pine, cedar, sand, or walnut shell--those are all AWFUL for corn snakes. Use aspen, carefresh, or even paper towels.

Please, browse some of the threads here on the forums, use the search function, get a good book or two (the two I mentioned above are considered the "best" corn snake books), and, after ALL of that reading, if there's still something that confuses you, you can start a new thread asking for help. Just about everything you need to know, though, can be found in an old thread or in Kathy and Don's books.
 
susang said:
Look at the original post date of this thread 2004 he/she was new then.
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Floof said:
Hi, zombie thread!

I love the Corn Snake Manual. I recently (ok--7 months ago) got my copy of the CSM back after loaning it out to a friend (who subsequently lost it--it was almost 3 years before I got it back!). Have already put it to use a couple times since getting it back... :)

millru, that's all basic info you can find just by browsing the forums and by getting a good book like Kathy Love's Corn Snake Manual or Don Soderberg's Corn Snakes in Captivity.

To answer a few of your questions:
If you use a tank, get a Zilla Critter Cage with the sliding screen top. They're much more secure than an aquarium with a separate lid and clips.

The minimum size for an adult corn snake is a 20 gallon Long (dimensions 30"x12"x12"), but bigger (i.e. 40 gallon Breeder, 36x18x16") is better.

Aspen bedding works great for corn snakes. Never use pine, cedar, sand, or walnut shell--those are all AWFUL for corn snakes. Use aspen, carefresh, or even paper towels.

Please, browse some of the threads here on the forums, use the search function, get a good book or two (the two I mentioned above are considered the "best" corn snake books), and, after ALL of that reading, if there's still something that confuses you, you can start a new thread asking for help. Just about everything you need to know, though, can be found in an old thread or in Kathy and Don's books.
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thanks so much! this'll really help!:cheers:
 
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