THE CHALLENGE!!!!!

[Roy Munson]

Four neck-dot, thirty-nine-and-a-half saddle normal. (Bobbi; 2007)

 

[zorro]

I am surprised Stephen didn't show this one, thank you Stephen he is a hog!
Ultramel Lavender

 

[ILOVECORNSNAKES]

Y? R UR hands broken?

lol, no, they aren't, but im not good with creativity and computers at the same time, n Toshiro said they were willing to do it, they asked what she should do, so i suggested

 

[Weebonilass]

Four neck-dot, thirty-nine-and-a-half saddle normal. (Bobbi; 2007)

Whoa Roy... now that is some dedication. Just how did you get Bobbi to hold still long enough to count that high??? The refrigerator?

 

[snakeparadise]

i dindt see a ghost striped motley on the list

 

[Susan]

Heeeeeeeeeeey, I'm late to the party. Wanted to go through and make sure one of my three would fit... did the list, not knowing that it had already been done:bang:

This is Don Dorcha (or Daire). He's an anery that is part mot, part normal and part zigzag... and he's het for blood. Still looking for the right little lady for him

And this first picture really looks like he might have some minor hurricane stuff going on... will have to look closer when I feed tonight...

Looking at Susan's list, there's an Anery A hurricane motley and an Anery A striped motley, but no plain jane Anery A motley.

In that case, here's my pair of them so that Mr. Mohr can put up some other Neato pic! (so I'm NOT being a weasel, I'm doing a public service. Yeah, that's it!).


Actually, Susan missed it if there wasn't one posted previously to me (I believe there was one though) because my guy, Don Dorcha is an Anery A motley, but his pattern also includes some zigzag.

So in Joe's words... Foul

No foul has been committed. Don Darcha is a very nice anery striped motley, but that morph had already been listed, hence the "omission" in my list. There have been a couple of other "omissions" due to members posting more than one morph at a time. For example, and I will rectify that with my next snake, is a member posted pics of 2 different patterned amels...one an amel zigzag and the other an amel aztec. Since that member specifically mentioned the morph as amel aztec, I used that in the list, but amel zigzag is still open...that is, it WAS, until now.

Amel Zigzag

 

[Susan]

gandalf he is a ghost "grey head"



annabelle she is a anery miami

I'm sorry, but what exactly is a ghost "grey head", other than a ghost that looks like it's het bloodred (which has already been "played" as visual hets have been allowed.) And I don't think there can be an anery Miami, as just about all anerys fit that description. Therefore, I have to say "foul" on both of your "entries". Good try though, as they are both sweet snakes!

Four neck-dot, thirty-nine-and-a-half saddle normal. (Bobbi; 2007)

I will not even dignify that entry with a "FOUL!"

i dindt see a ghost striped motley on the list

Actually, shed'n my skin posted a lovely ghost striped motley early in the "game". Therefore, you get a "foul". Nice ghost striped motley though!

 

[Susan]

Oh...I would say that at this time, there should be no waiting for other morphs. Due to a few "fouls", zorro posted 2 valid entries back-to-back. Since they were excellent entries (LOVE the hypo lav blood!), It's "first come, first entered" from this point on. So hurry up Jeff and post some more of those awesome morphs you've been hiding! And I also wonder when Rich plans on joining the game as he has a few morph combos that need to be put in. And Carol...where's that handsome amel cinder of yours?

 

[Gib_one]

I'm sorry, but what exactly is a ghost "grey head", other than a ghost that looks like it's het bloodred (which has already been "played" as visual hets have been allowed.)

No Bloodred inside. Ist a ghost with reduced head pattern, a new breeding trial over here.

Ist the same like the miami here: http://kornnatterlexikon.de/

And why is a Silverqueen without hypo (anery miami) a foul if hypo and crimson or reverse okeetee and regular amel count as well?

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

And why is a Silverqueen without hypo (anery miami) a foul if hypo and crimson or reverse okeetee and regular amel count as well?

Because Silverqueen can only be Hypo. A Silverqueen is a selectively bred Ghost (Hypo + Anery).

 

[snakeparadise]

I'm sorry, but what exactly is a ghost "grey head", other than a ghost that looks like it's het bloodred (which has already been "played" as visual hets have been allowed.) And I don't think there can be an anery Miami, as just about all anerys fit that description. Therefore, I have to say "foul" on both of your "entries". Good try though, as they are both sweet snakes!



I will not even dignify that entry with a "FOUL!"



Actually, shed'n my skin posted a lovely ghost striped motley early in the "game". Therefore, you get a "foul". Nice ghost striped motley though!

we were fouled out already i see, but missed that one.........please don't shoot us:smash:


and thnx you like our ghost motley striped, we like a lot of morphs we've seen so far in this topic.
now see what the newest morphs are , i think they will appear in this topic.:spinner:

 

[Gib_one]

Because Silverqueen can only be Hypo. A Silverqueen is a selectively bred Ghost (Hypo + Anery).

Didnt called it a silverqueen, its a miami anery as the poster said. Its just the f2 from silverqueen x miami or something like this. So i did not unterstand why it does not count.

If this is a foul my own hatched reverse okeetees must be a foul too when there are not selective bred by rich or what? (for example)

Whatever, i dont care about foul or not. Its just strange that we count 10000 variations of simple amels but no selective bred anery :S

 

[zorro]

How about a Avalanche (Snow + Bloodred) from Sean @ VMS:

 

[The_Saiyajin]

Holy .
So gorgeous snakes.

Well even I am posting once in a while.

I did not see that morph so far, so here I go.
This is my little Amber Bloodred het amel.

 

[zorro]

I love your amber blood he/she is great!:flames:

 

[Weebonilass]

No foul has been committed. Don Darcha is a very nice anery striped motley, but that morph had already been listed, hence the "omission" in my list. There have been a couple of other "omissions" due to members posting more than one morph at a time. For example, and I will rectify that with my next snake, is a member posted pics of 2 different patterned amels...one an amel zigzag and the other an amel aztec. Since that member specifically mentioned the morph as amel aztec, I used that in the list, but amel zigzag is still open...that is, it WAS, until now.

Susan,

Don Dorcha was sold to me as an anery motley by Gideon. I'm curious why you would believe that he would be considered a stripe instead of motley? His parents were anerys het for mot & bloodred.

 

[mactopa]

I'm sorry, but what exactly is a ghost "grey head", other than a ghost that looks like it's het bloodred (which has already been "played" as visual hets have been allowed.) And I don't think there can be an anery Miami, as just about all anerys fit that description. Therefore, I have to say "foul" on both of your "entries". Good try though, as they are both sweet snakes!

the ghost is not het. blood !!!! "grey head" is the name of a special line ;-)
and you can believe me when I write that it is a anery miami than it is like I say ;-)

 

[Susan]

No Bloodred inside. Ist a ghost with reduced head pattern, a new breeding trial over here.

Ist the same like the miami here: http://kornnatterlexikon.de/

And why is a Silverqueen without hypo (anery miami) a foul if hypo and crimson or reverse okeetee and regular amel count as well?

Didnt called it a silverqueen, its a miami anery as the poster said. Its just the f2 from silverqueen x miami or something like this. So i did not unterstand why it does not count.

If this is a foul my own hatched reverse okeetees must be a foul too when there are not selective bred by rich or what? (for example)

Whatever, i dont care about foul or not. Its just strange that we count 10000 variations of simple amels but no selective bred anery :S

the ghost is not het. blood !!!! "grey head" is the name of a special line ;-)
and you can believe me when I write that it is a anery miami than it is like I say ;-)

Hey! Don't bite my head off just because I haven't heard of every variety found in Europe! Sorry! But now that some explanations of the morphs have been presented, I will be more than glad to add them to the list.

 

[Susan]

Susan,

Don Dorcha was sold to me as an anery motley by Gideon. I'm curious why you would believe that he would be considered a stripe instead of motley? His parents were anerys het for mot & bloodred.

I never said he wasn't a motley. I said he was a striped motley. His photo clearly shows a pin-striped pattern. Some people get confused with terminology. I shall try to explain the differences.

Motley in homozygous form = a variety of patterns, from "regular" to hurricane to Q-tipped to partially striped (pin-striped) to fully striped (pin-striped) to some of everything. Hopefully, the terminology of the striped (pin-striped) form is moving towards "striped motley"...describing the variety of motley pattern and not the genetics.

Motley het stripe = even though this snake carries both a motley and a stripe gene, the pattern that shows is motley, and motley ONLY! It is NEVER a striped, as in a homozygous stripe, pattern. What confuses people is that, like the homozygous motley, it comes in the same varieties of patterns. Therefore, you can have both a homozygous motley that can be called a "striped motley" AND you can have a motley het stripe that can be called a "striped motley". I also hope that there is a trend to call those snakes that carry both the motley and stripe gene as "motley het stripe". Yes, some may say it isn't accurate, but it sure prevents any confusion as to what the genetics are. Some people, including myself, used the term motley/stripe to denote a snake with both genes, but I found it still confused some people, so I don't use it anymore.

Stripe = in homozygous form, can be differentiated from the striped motley by the width of the stripes themselves as well as the distance between them. The stripes themselves are also 99.9% of the time "smooth", where on striped motleys, you can get the occasional "irregularity" or "bump" along the stripe. Having the odd connection (or several) between the stripes can occur in homozygous stripes. It may be related to what happens in cubes, which is still a bit of a mystery.

 

[Susan]

3/4 Corn 1/4 Cali king jungle het motley. Some people call a 3/4 corn 1/4 Cali king a "turbo" corn, but I know some call a gopher X corn hybrid a turbo corn.