Americans!!! Who will win?

[wade]

I'm really on the fence and don't know which way to jump with one exception:


No Way In Hillery!!!

 

[NFS07]

And just what has Obama proved in his ~2 years in office that would make him capable of running the country?

Thats what I was thinking. Obama looks like maybe one day he could win and I would be happy but not today or this time around.

Has ANYBODY proved in the last 20 years that they could run the country? :shrugs:

No matter who is voted in..........guaranteed to happen is this:

1. Nobody will be happy
2. Promises won't be kept
3. We (USA) will continue to get involved in everybody else's affairs and not pay attention to our own troubles.
4. The "Decline of Western Civilization" will prevail

It's inevitable. That's why I quit voting 12 years ago......it doesn't matter. Hell, Cheech OR Chong would be just as qualified to lead this nation.

g

Your so right.

 

[Jay@PJCReptiles]

I will vote for Hillary I guess.

If this woman were to take office we, as Americans, can give a big kiss good-bye to America as we know it.
"The Stop Hillary Express" - Sean Hannity Great American

The true question at hand is............
"What would Reagan do?"

Jay

Republicans Unite !!!

 

[NFS07]

If this woman were to take office we, as Americans, can give a big kiss good-bye to America as we know it.
"The Stop Hillary Express" - Sean Hannity Great American

The true question at hand is............
"What would Reagan do?"

Jay

Republicans Unite !!!

Pretty much. I mean I think it great that there is a women running but she is the wrong women for the job at hand. It shows how much America has changed and just how far we have come. We have a colored man and a female running and they have not been killed yet. I think that in itself should be enough for those two.

We need another Reagan, he is one of my top 3 past pres.

Now, I have a hell of a time picking between any of them. I'm pro-guns, pro-choice, proish-war, proish-death penalty, pro-welfare, antiish-universal health care, anti- school prayer, I think global warming is the poles switching, pro- legal immigration only, and I call myself a Republican.

 

[jessicalb]

I just got my early ballot in the mail, I am a registered Democrat, somebody convince me to bother. All of these people sound horrible.

 

[Joejr14]

I just got my early ballot in the mail, I am a registered Democrat, somebody convince me to bother. All of these people sound horrible.

.....switch parties? :shrugs:

 

[NFS07]

.....switch parties? :shrugs:

Cause those stand out oh so much more. But Jessica, go online to their websites and decide which one stands for most of the issues you stand for. Your vote still counts even if it's for the lesser of the evils.

 

[jazzgeek]

Dale, one of these days I have GOT to make sure you and hubby have a long conversation with me just listening. I have a feeling that it will be VERY interesting as well as entertaining.

That's the thing, Susan...I LOVE debating the the culturally "taboo" subjects like politics and religion, as long as it's done respectfully. It's what contributes to what our culture is as Americans.

Daytona, maybe?

regards,
jazz

 

[jazzgeek]

For those concerned that "Candidate ____ has no experience", here's a little something to chew on......

It's historical FACT that, since the 1960 Presidential election (Nixon/Kennedy), when Americans decided to elect the candidate of the political party NOT in power (in other words, if the incumbent was Democratic, we elected a Republican, and vice versa), the candidate with the "LEAST" experience was elected.

Let's review; incumbent presidents/or parties are in blue:

1960: Kennedy-D elected over Nixon-R (Eisenhower's VP) (Party Change)

1964: Johnson-D (Kennedy's VP, assumed office upon Kennedy's assassination) elected over Goldwater-R, (NO Party Change)

1968: Nixon-R elected over Humphrey-D (Johnson's VP after Johnson refused to seek second term) (Party Change)

1972: Nixon-R re-elected over McGovern-D (No Change)

(Nixon's VP, Spiro Agnew, resigns in 1973, Gerald Ford appointed VP)
(Nixon resigns in 1974, Ford becomes President, Nelson Rockefeller appointed VP)

1976: Carter-D elected over Ford-R (Change)

1980: Reagan-R elected over Carter-D (Change)

1984: Reagan-R re-elected over Mondale-D (No Change)

1988: Bush(41)-R (Reagan's VP) elected over Dukakis-D (No Change)

1992: Clinton-D elected over Bush(41)-R (Change)

1996: Clinton-D re-elected over Dole-R (No Change)

2000: Bush(43)-R elected over Gore-D (Clinton's VP) (Change)

2004: Bush(43)-R re-elected over Kerry-D (No Change)

I WON'T conclude whether this data bodes well or poorly for any particular candidate. The only conclusion that I will draw from this data is that, if Americans want a change in party power from the incumbent President, they don't care about experience as much as they care about change itself.

It'll be interesting to see if this trend remains consistent in November.

regards,
jazz

 

[NFS07]

Well we all know that America wants change but which party will offer more change? Who will hold up their promises the most? Who won't lead us down a road that will only twist and end us right back here?

 

[jazzgeek]

Well we all know that America wants change but which party will offer more change? Who will hold up their promises the most? Who won't lead us down a road that will only twist and end us right back here?

If you're referring to my prior post, I wasn't alluding to a vague notion of change....

The only conclusion that I will draw from this data is that, if Americans want a change in party power from the incumbent President (bold added), they don't care about experience as much as they care about change itself.

And I won't assume (at this point yet - I think it's too early) that America wants that particular change.

regards,
jazz

 

[grimm1]

i don't want to hear jack about change. America is always changing, why should any one party candidate get credit for what is inevitable?
i will say this, second family presidents(father/son, cousins, etc...) generally don't work well historically speaking. yes that does include one alcoholic 6th(?) president John Quincy Adams. to hell with Hillary. don't need more reruns.