New Corn not Thermoregulating?

g124v17y · Feb 23, 2008

Hi everyone, first day with my new baby corn and he is not thermoregulating. He has tons of hiding spots and plenty of paper towels also. However, I put him on the cool side and he stays there, he wiggles around till hes comfortable then stay there. He does the same for the warm side. What should I do? He is in a 55 gallon tank. Am I just worrying too much?

ghosthousecorns · Feb 23, 2008

Yes he is probably freaked out by your presence and trying to be inconspicuous. It is advised to leave new snakes alone for a few days. I'm sure if you leave him alone he will feel a bit more confident to explore and get to know his viv

Lennycorn · Feb 23, 2008

g124v17y said:
Am I just worrying too much?

You want it plain and simple...Yep.
Now to to bed.:rofl:

Lennycorn · Feb 23, 2008

g124v17y · Feb 23, 2008

what?! lol ok as long as he will be ok I'm fine. lol ok! BYE!

Susielea · Feb 23, 2008

Oh wow, the king of URLs is back!.....lol

g124v17y, your baby is going to be fine, just give him a bit of time to settle in and adjust to his new surroundings. And don't forget corns are most active around dusk and dawn, so don't be surprised when you don't see him much during the day.

Best wishes,

ghosthousecorns · Feb 23, 2008

Susielea said:
Oh wow, the king of URLs is back!.....lol

So our duke is now a king huh? Wow I don't get the monarchy system!

Susielea · Feb 24, 2008

Ooops my mistake, I was so pleased to see him back I think I "promoted" him...lol

The "Duke of URLs" does "sound" a lot better though!

Best wishes,

Cam5 · Feb 24, 2008

Isn't a 55 gallon way too big for a hatchling???

From what I have read and was told smaller is better no bigger than a 20 gallon long.

He also might like Aspen bedding so he can sneak around a bit still hidden in order to find where he is most comfortable.

Lennycorn · Feb 24, 2008

Cam5 said:
Isn't a 55 gallon way too big for a hatchling???

From what I have read and was told smaller is better no bigger than a 20 gallon long.

He also might like Aspen bedding so he can sneak around a bit still hidden in order to find where he is most comfortable.

Joejr14 said:
Says who? Me says that a 55gallon tank is MUCH smaller than...the entire wilderness that hatchlings deal with in the wild....

You might want to chat them with gentlemen. :smash:

Lennycorn · Feb 24, 2008

shed'n my skin said:
So our duke is now a king huh? Wow I don't get the monarchy system!

Hey Susielea........

............Don't get on the wrong side of the Queen.....:rofl:

Cam5 · Feb 24, 2008

If you want to know 'says who' about the 55 gallon.
Says the corn snake care books, herp vets, and the breeders I have spoken with.

I am not arguing wild vs captive. The whole idea is that one needs to create a microclimate the little ones can confidently navigate.

I did not post to create friction, I was just trying to help.

Also, if there is no thermostat/rheostat on the heating pad and the keeper is only using paper towels that can be of concern as well. Especially if he is under the towels. Snakes can get burned before they are aware.
He also may be avoiding the warm hide because it is too warm...some corns will shy away from direct heat at 85*F or over...90*F can kill them.

I wish the OP the best of luck!

As long as the warm hide is internally between 80*F-84*F and the little corn is using it, he will be fine.
If you keep such a large enclosure you may want a couple extra small water bowls around the perimeter so he can easily access them and to maintain the ambient humiditiy.

Lennycorn · Feb 24, 2008

Cam5 said:
If you want to know 'says who' about the 55 gallon.
Says the corn snake care books, herp vets, and the breeders I have spoken with.

I am not arguing wild vs captive. The whole idea is that one needs to create a microclimate the little ones can confidently navigate.

I did not post to create friction, I was just trying to help.

Also, if there is no thermostat/rheostat on the heating pad and the keeper is only using paper towels that can be of concern as well. Especially if he is under the towels. Snakes can get burned before they are aware.
He also may be avoiding the warm hide because it is too warm...some corns will shy away from direct heat at 85*F or over...90*F can kill them.

I wish the OP the best of luck!

As long as the warm hide is internally between 80*F-84*F and the little corn is using it, he will be fine.
If you keep such a large enclosure you may want a couple extra small water bowls around the perimeter so he can easily access them and to maintain the ambient humiditiy.

To the first part, wild vs captive, that was just a side joke from another thread. I was trying to create humor.

The second part, I've been posting with g124v17y since yesterday morning, before he went to Hanburg PA show to pick up his new corn. And he states that "herpstat didn't come in yet" so we were telling him some tricks until it does.. and to add hides, split the 55 viv in half and such.
He pumped up and all of that but did want him to worry.

And so you know, it's been advsed, in cases of RI, that you set the temp to
90 degrees to help cure it, so it's not a killer temp.

g124v17y · Feb 24, 2008

Ok so here is what I think. Snakes live in the wild, with no confinment. Meaning, that as long as you have PLENTY of hiding places they will feel secure and happy. For example, I have ripped up paper towels for him to hide under, and about 9 toilet paper rolls. He is fine, as soon as I put him in the tank he bolted under some paper towels. At about 10:00p.m. I saw him slithering around and exploring. He even went swimming! haha I love him and I think he is happy.

Cam5 · Feb 24, 2008

Thanks for the clarification (guess i missed the humor:uhoh

.
I am glad your snake is happy.:dancer:

I realize an ambient 90*F isn't a killer and has medicinal properties.
But it can be if it is direct heat (that's all i was saying)

Since most little ones come from breeders who keep them in shoe box sized housing they might be a bit overwhelmed at a large home all of a sudden...at least that is what I have been told.

Enjoy your little guy...any pictures yet?

g124v17y · Feb 24, 2008

No sorry, no pics yet... I keep leaving my camera in the car!! Anyway, I put a few books in the cage, (cleaned them of course), on top of the heating pad and they are keeping the temp at around 85. He is spending most of his time on the books, and he seems ok.

Maize411 · Feb 24, 2008

Hey great to hear you got your snake! Congrats! Can't wait to see pics of him :0) Unfortunately I didn't get to see anyone at the reptile show..even though I was there..but I did see some very gorgous snakes!! I almost came home with 3..but my friends kept me in check and I came home with a new baby Cali. King snake male (I'll be posting pics up in a bit..) Unfortunately he has to stay at my friend's house in NY cause my b/f doesn't want anymore reptiles in our house..but my friend promised me we can go back in March and he's willing to get another one!! Yay!! So I'll be getting another snake in one month..The other two I liked was this pure bright orange Rat snake and this tiny baby stripe snow corn..very small...but she was sooooo cute!! I swear I would nave come home with 3 or more snakes had my friends not been there...My other friend brought home 3 new pet rats for herself..and she almost wanted to give me one as a pet...Well I'll be posting up pics as soon as I can of my new snake...so yea..

Congrats on the new snake gi24..I'm sure he'll be fine and like you said as long as he has plenty of hides..I good temp gradiant and good water he should prove to be a very good snake..Just let him be for a few days so he can get used to his new home..It was killing me to know I couldn't play with my king yet..but all in good time :0)

Lennycorn · Feb 24, 2008

hey Maize411

do you have a link to the web site or something...to get show dates.

Thanks

Cam5 · Feb 24, 2008

g124v17y said:
No sorry, no pics yet... I keep leaving my camera in the car!! Anyway, I put a few books in the cage, (cleaned them of course), on top of the heating pad and they are keeping the temp at around 85. He is spending most of his time on the books, and he seems ok.

You are very resourceful!

If you have some aspen bedding you can just put a couple inches over the pad and it will buffer for you too...one of the breeders I e-mailed with calls aspen the 'passive thermostat'

Also, several owners and breeders have mentioned that the corns (esp little ones) like the feeling of their hide lightly touching their backs...that's another reason they like to go under the paper towels. An easy cheap hide of this sort is cardboard pieces or grocery bag pieces placed here and there.
One of our hatchlings loves it! the other likes to lie on top of them:shrugs:

You are doing great! You are 'listening' to what your little one needs...best of luck...looking forward to the pics

By the way....what is your snake's name and morph?

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