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SpiritSerpent's 2021 pairings

Shiari

Shiari

Blutterer
I've finalized my pairs for the year, barring unforeseen circumstances.

Gabrielle (charcoal het hypo, amel, diffused) x Bansidhe (phantom moonstone?)

- Testing Bansidhe for homozygous charcoal or not. Best case scenario- Charcoals het ghost lavender ph amel diffused, Phantoms het moonstone ph amel diffused. Not ideal scenario: Normals, hypos, charcoals and phantoms with hets. Worst case scenario: all normals and hypos with hets.

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A' ghrian (sulfur motley-stripe) x Bansidhe (phantom moonstone?)

A bit of het checking, and hoping to make babies het for 8 of the most common hidden hets found in corn snakes.

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Leshen (lavender) x Pard (anery leopard motley)

Leshen was initially sold as a moonstone, so this will test her for anery as well as motley. Will be holding back a set of non-motley babies to some day test the inheritance of the leopard motley pattern. Expected results: a pile of normals

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Ms. Moose (anery het hypo, dilute ph amel) x Pard (anery leopard motley)

Will act as a bit of het checking for these two.

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LyraFamily said:
Will you be redoing Torandre x Bansidhe this year to check for possible sex-linked pattern?
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No.Tor didn't bounce back from that last clutch as well as usual, and she is turning 14 this year. Also, she's never produced zigzag babies with any other male. It will be interesting to see if gabby or a'ghrian make ziggy babies with bansidhe though!
 
It sounds like Tor is getting a well-deserved rest after producing such a masterpiece of a clutch!

It definitely will be interesting to see what happens with Gabby and A'ghrian.
 
So, of course, my females are receptive and bansidhe isn't interested in *any* of them. So some major plan changes.
Pairing Gallium, a pewter het lavender to both the girls Bansidhe was supposed to have. With Gabby this will give me again a mix of charcoals and pewters, some of which will be exceptionally dark. With A'ghrian I will get all diffused het charcoal, amel, caramel, motley OR stripe and 50% lavender. Nice project animals still.
Now I need Pard to hopefully stop being an absolute chicken. Might do a cohab pair for him and Leshen to see if this is just nerves, similar to the charcoal motley I had.
 
I have previously put a proven male in with a younger male for a few minutes. Thought was if the younger male thinks there is competition it will give him more a sense of urgency of getting the job done.
 
67temp said:
I have previously put a proven male in with a younger male for a few minutes. Thought was if the younger male thinks there is competition it will give him more a sense of urgency of getting the job done.
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I tried this with Pard, who is acting terrified of the girls. He *immediately* fought with the other male. Took that male out, reintroduced female- he is again immediately afraid of her. -_-
Bansidhe is himself a proven male which is part of why his behaviour this year is so frustrating.
 
Some good news!

Pard was being all demure because he was apparently in the tail end of blue and didn't feel pretty enough for the girls. He shed last night, I paired him back up with Leshen and this male who has never been bred before in his life danced with her and had her locked in under 5 minutes. Smooth operator that one.

Some more good news!

Bansidhe is finally interested in breeding!

The bad news!

Bansidhe is currently interested in breeding with himself as much as he is interested in the female!
Gabby is unreceptive at the moment so I'll wait until her next shed and try them again.

Hopefully final pairings this year will be-
A'ghrian x Gallium (AG21)
Leshen x Pard (LP21)
Gabrielle x Bansidhe (GB21)
Ms. Moose x Pard (MP21)
 
Bansidhe has successfully locked with Gabby. This year will prove if he's homozygous or het or not het for charcoal. Finally.

The mysteries are being strange enough I put Moose back to Eugene to make more of them.

A'ghrian is in blue and looks like she's going to explode. I'm not certain any of the eggs are fertile though, they're not distinct feeling on palpation.
 
I’m glad that Bansidhe got bored with himself and decided to court Gabby. I can’t wait to see what they produce- maybe some more patterned/ziggy babies are in your future?
 
A' ghrian is laying as we speak and the 3 eggs out of 14 palpated that are on the ground look fertile! Should have a nice crop of bloodreds/diffused het charcoal, caramel, amel, motley OR stripe and 50% lavender.
 
Shiari said:
A' ghrian is laying as we speak and the 3 eggs out of 14 palpated that are on the ground look fertile! Should have a nice crop of bloodreds/diffused het charcoal, caramel, amel, motley OR stripe and 50% lavender.
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Nice! Congrats on the eggs!
 
At least 2 pairs went as planned. A'ghrian passed 5 eggs and became eggbound. Despite veterinary intervention she ended up dying. On necropsy the stuck eggs appear to have caused some trauma as there was some tissue necrosis already. All the remaining inside her were fertile but completely lacked any calcification to the shell. They all candled with veins but dried up the same way slugs do. Of the 5 eggs passed, 4 are fertile.
The lavender gal either didn't take and is resorbing or has slugs.
Ms. Moose gave me a lovely clutch of 13, so hoping for more of those... Dilutes?
And Gabby provided 14 beautiful eggs so this will tell whether Bansidhe is charcoal or not.
 
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