Copperhead - My ??? Motley

I've explained his weird genetics before, but I saw someone who had a similar problem/ mystery so I'll explain them again.
Copperhead came from two virgin Butter Motleys. The whole clutch looked like Butter Motleys except for him.. he looked like an amel!

It was an extremely weird occurrence, and considering that it was the parent's first time breeding, it couldn't have been retained sperm. I've always wondered what he is and at one point I had a Caramel Motley female that I was going to test breed him to. Unfortunately that didn't pan out, and I no longer have the Caramel Mot.
My revised plans for him are a female Hypo het Amel and Caramel. Hopefully that will give me some clue as to his genetics?

Anyhow,
He shed a few days ago! Here's his glorious photo shoot today!


I love this boy, cause I can place him somewhere and he's SUCH a good little poser. He was made to be a model




He's a little more exploratory in the trees.






Here are some attempts at full body shots in the tree




Oh, and one last one, here's a picture of him back in '07 as a hatchling.


Thanks for checking him out! If anyone has any guesses or suggestions for future breeding plans, feel free to share! Thanks!!

WOW!!!!! He's beautiful!!!:dancer:

Glad you like how he turned out Tom!!!

Hey, do you still have pictures of his parents and siblings? Just thought it'd be cool to look at them, and I didn't save any pictures way back when. Maybe one of these years I'll get another Caramel Mot for him.
Do you think he could be homo hypo?? :shrugs: That was a random passing thought.

I think that butters can start off anywhere from amel to snow in color, according to this year's morph guide

thanks for sharing the great shots

Does he have red eyes? he coud be a goldust.

I dont know but I like him. his eyes look gold in color

no no not gold dust... look at the eyes- pink iris!. Are there any pics of the siblings? that would be great to see and compare!

maybe its his het? maybe he is amel het caramel?

Jessicat said:

Glad you like how he turned out Tom!!!

Hey, do you still have pictures of his parents and siblings? Just thought it'd be cool to look at them, and I didn't save any pictures way back when. Maybe one of these years I'll get another Caramel Mot for him.
Do you think he could be homo hypo?? :shrugs: That was a random passing thought.

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I'll look & see if I still have any. I have deleted alot of photo's in the past year. I'll have to see if I put any on dvd. I'll also look on my reptilegeek albums. No hypo in him that I know of.

Whatever he is, he's beautiful!

Back in '07 Gold Dusts weren't as common.. I don't think there's any ultra(mel) in this line.

If Tom can't find pictures, from what I remember, his parents were both beautiful light Butter Motleys, and all of his siblings were completely yellow. He was the only Orange/ Red guy in the bunch. :shrugs:

Yea, I don't know why I was thinking Hypo had anything to do with it, I just thought maybe Hypo would add something to his look, but I guess that would be an Amber /amel Motley, and he would probably be even lighter or more Caramely looking. I don't know.

Thanks for the compliments, guys! Taking pictures of him is so much fun. He is the calmest of my snakes.

Hes awesome! Whatever he is....

I have a nice virgin female amel stripe het anery 50% ph caramel who wont be doing anything next year... And i would love to see her tested for caramel...

He is GORGEOUS....wow is all I can really say.

Jessica here is his fathers picture. I can't find any of the sibs or mother. If I find any I'll post them here.

Thanks, Tom! Wow, they look pretty similar.. except that Copperhead is like.. 3 shades darker Orange.

Cool!

Copperhead just shed! I figured I'd just update this thread with the pictures I took of him this session rather than create a new thread.







Kind of an "outtake", but I thought the tongue was just too cute not to include.


Best of both worlds.. tongue and in focus!




Next we moved onto the tree and I managed to get a few nice shots.






Also, John, if you see this, I have a question. I recall you saying that it's rare for Stripe's pattern to extend down its tail. Is this the same for Pin-Striped Motleys? Copperhead's pattern extends onto his tail. Just wondering if that is odd for the morph.
Here's a picture that shows what I'm talking about.

Copperhead is hot!

The stripey tail is on almost all my motley animals, so i guess its normal.

I wonder if it is something similar to the effect of a "red" factor, and the expression it takes in butters produces darker, "redder" (lol) butters? Or it's just an extremely dark butter?

Too bad you don't have another butter to prove him out with...Very pretty too :*)

Wow I love those close up pictures with the tongue!!