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A question to you serious collectors/breeders about how you got started

jimmythetiger

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Ok so I really gotta know... how did most of you guys get started? ( I know there was a thread like this awhile back but I cant find it lol)

First off Im a 17 year old girl who lives with her mom. lol. I have one corn snake and I lurk on snake sites and forums like this one religiously. My interest for snakes has long been peaked and I really envy those of you who have thriving collections, and I too hope to one day have many more snakes of my own (corn or otherwise)

That being said, I'm really curious as to how a lot of you got started. How did you get interested? Who taught you all that you know? Where do you work to sustain this costly hobby? What about boyfriends/girlfriends/spouses and whatnot? Did you have someone prior and you lured them into the hobby with you, or did you meet someone at a reptile event or something?

I know these are kind of weird questions, but I honestly want to know.

:p
 
I don't know if I qualify as "serious" yet, but I started the same as most other people on this site. One snake at a time. LOL.

Living in Florida, I'd always had an interest in reptiles because of the variety I could catch in my own backyard. I've learned everything (and I do mean EVERYTHING) about good keeping I know from this forum and Kathy Love's book. I'm currently working from home, and my partner is a hair stylist. But I'm the one that pays for all of the animals and their care. When I met him, I only had 3 snakes, and he was in now way interested. I slowly lured him in before springing the trap, and getting him to buy herps of his own. LOL. We're coming up on our 3 year anniversary, and I've had herps for almost 4 years.
 
Haha thanks!

Fortunately, I do have Kathy Love's book and well obviously this site. So I guess I'll continue you to do now lol. As for my future boyfriends and whatnot, they're in for a treat I suppose :p Thanks for your input :)
 
Haha thanks!

Fortunately, I do have Kathy Love's book and well obviously this site. So I guess I'll continue you to do now lol. As for my future boyfriends and whatnot, they're in for a treat I suppose :p Thanks for your input :)

I personally think pets are a good test of a partner. I don't regard them as negotiable. If someone isn't willing to deal with my pets, I could only see them casually.
 
Well, I got started a bit different then most.

My wife and I, were predominantly rodent breeders. We bred a wide variety of rodents for shows, pets, projects and some as food. We happen to know this couple in our town that kept a fair collection of snakes. We would sell them some of the animals that we would need to cull, for various reasons.

So one day they broke up. Christine and I, being the "good" friends that we are, while talking to them mentioned that if they needed anything, to let us know. Break ups are tough and these two had been together for a long time. We didn't want to get in the middle of this thing, but were mostly trying to be good friends.

One of them decided to take us up on the offer, because he was concerned with how his snakes would be treated when he left and he couldn't take them with him, immediately. So, he asked us to sit a small rack of snakes for him, while he and his "new" girlfriend found a place to live. As I mentioned, we are good friends and reluctantly agreed to help him out. He said it was only going to be for 2-3 weeks and as payment, we could have one of the snakes.

The next day, he swung by the house with this nice big rack, about 25 adult corn snakes, 3 nelson milk snakes and 7 geckos. He plunked them down in my bedroom and they were all in snake bags, and took off. Said something about an important errand or something. :shrugs:

Christine and I, didn't know a damn thing about caring for snakes. We didn't know about feeding them, proper temps or anything. The killer was trying to figure out how to set that damn rack up.

Now you have to remember that he was concerned that his snakes weren't going to get good care with his ex, but since we didn't know what we were doing and didn't know who else to call, we called her. She came right over and helped us figure out this mess that he left us. She didn't care about him, but was concerned about the well being of the snakes and geckos.

She wrote down everything that we needed to know, to get started. Gave us some feeders so we could feed the snakes and told us to call her, if we had any problems.

From that moment, we were on a mission to learn as much as we possibly could about these snakes and their care. We bought Kathy Loves and Don Soderbergs books, did a ton of research on line and relied a lot on trial and error.

Well, about 8 months later, he showed back up at the house to pick up all of his snakes. This was after we had this huge fight on the phone and I told him what I thought about him. It's a very long story as to why this happened, but it needed to be done. The guy never called or offered to help us in any way, to take care of his snakes. His ex-girlfriend and I, did it all. That and a whole bunch of other stuff that made it very easy to pick a side in this whole thing. I really think we got the better end of the friendship, by sticking with her, anyway!

As I mentioned, he came to the house and picked up his rack, snakes and geckos. He left me with the one I selected to keep. He packed up his truck, left and I have not talked to or seen him since. It's been great! From what I have heard, he sold off and gave away the majority of his collection, and is no longer in the biz.

Well, the first snake we got was Asher (pic 1 andpic 2). Then we got Muse from PetCo (pic 1 and pic 2)

Now we have over 50 snakes and a Frilled Dragon and where we are going to go from here, I do not know? I thoroughly enjoy having all these snakes and it's now a new passion of mine. I have a lot of pride in my collection.

Thanks for reading and I am sorry it's so long!

Wayne
 
Wow Wayne that is so neat.
Robbie modest as ever, not serious, how many snakes did you say you have now?
 
great story's posted in this thread!

I believe this is the thread you spoke of? my story and 4 pages of other ones are on that one if you want to look at it. But keep this thread going to! :)
 
I've kept various reptiles for a few years now, but still not sure I'd count myself as a "serious" breeder/keeper. For what it's worth, here are my answers:

How did you get interested?
I had a holiday job working in the ticket office and gift shop of an aquarium/ serpentarium. Although it was in a provincial seaside town, the curator when I started was an expert herpetologist and we housed one of the largest collections of venomous snakes in the UK. From knowing nothing, I went to an environment where I was surrounded by people for whom having a house full of reptiles was perfectly ordinary.

One day, the aquarist (also a keen reptile owner) moved to a shared house which wouldn't accept most of his personal collection. I bought his 1.2 group of Normal Corns and.... the rest is history!

Who taught you all that you know?
I've just learnt as I've gone along. No one person/source has taught me everything and I'm still far from knowing everything there is to know about Corns! The guy I bought from was my first source of info, followed by the only book available on Corns at the time, Michael McEachern's slim but life-saving volume. There was no internet community when I started out.

Over the last ten years, sources of info have become more widely available - in fact my main problem now is learning to identify which is valid info and what's a rumour or just "inherited wisdom" that's passed on qithout being questioned or tested (and I'm sure I must be guilty of this myself at times!). Kathy's book has now taken the place of the McEachern as my first "go to" if something new crops up and I always ask here as well.

Where do you work to sustain this costly hobby?
At the moment I'm a full-time university student, living off my savings which are controlled by a very tight budget. However, my Corn Snake outgoings - plus contingency for vets etc - were all factored into my living expenses calculations well in advance. Before this, I worked in the IT industry, so money wasn't an issue (hence I was able to save enough to support myself without working for three years).

What about boyfriends/girlfriends/spouses and whatnot? Did you have someone prior and you lured them into the hobby with you, or did you meet someone at a reptile event or something?
When I got my first three, the live-in b/f at the time was mildly phobic about snakes. He could bear to be in the same room, but only if the vivs were behind the seating area so that he couldn't see them when we were watching TV or eating. He was pretty tolerant, but did go ballistic one day when he found that I'd been secretly storing frozen mice in the freezer. In fairness that was a particular bugbear of his and I had promised not to - I just got lazy about weekly buying trips.

The only other long-term b/f I've had whilst keeping snakes, started to get interested while he was going out with me. From knowing nothing, eight years later he ended up with four Taiwan Beauties, two Blue Beauties, two Mandarins, a pair of Gonyosoma, sundry other smaller snakes and a six foot high, eight foot wide display viv in his lounge! (He kept his own place throughout). You could say that I did quite a number on him...
 
Robbie modest as ever, not serious, how many snakes did you say you have now?

Compared to many, I'm not serious at all! I still haven't even broken the 100 mark... yet. I'm currently hovering around 90-ish. Depending on the day and how tired I am when I count. :laugh:
 
hmmm, I don't know if the term "serious" really has a good definition... personally I have 7 BCI... but their actual worth is... considerable enough if I were to subtitute them for cheaper morphs/snakes.... on the other hand, I am far from being a full "scale"(pun intended very much) breeder.

I don't consider myself a novice though, nor very basic.

On the whole... I started roughly 4 years ago on impulse.
I loved snakes since I was a little kid but could not do anything about it until I was 21 and out on my own two feet.

It started with a cornsnake and moved on to other species such as ballpythons, kingsnakes, Green Tree pythons until I found Boa Constrictors and I fell inlove... I keep them exclusively(well, those and one leucistic texas ratsnake which is too darn funny not to keep).

Once I got in touch with a major breeder here... I slowly got more and more high end morphs and that's it really...

So the first step I think is to first figure out what you actually want to do- do you want to be a full time breeder? do you have a prefference of species?

Regardless, at your age things are hectic, and change all the time- and that being said from experience with a 17 year old herp keeper... in that single year she turned from wanting to be a breeder all her life to a hobby and then to someone who didn't want to keep snakes much... A lot of changes will happen for you in the following years... and you are still young enough to spare yourself the need to make life-changing descisions now...

I suggest you go about slowly, read as much as you possibly can and never rely on a single person's advice. Do not take on large amounts of animals that will limit you in the future...

Best of luck,

Oren
 
I got my first corn snake as a tiny baby to help me over my phobia of snakes lol :)

I in turn helped my mom over hers. there were many years where I only had one or 2 and was quite happy with it.... until one fateful day I ran into an old friend who owned a pet shop. omg! hehe I would spend so much time there that ppl thought I was an employee :D All these beautiful animals would come in and I was very curious about them all and wanted to help take care of them so I started to do a ton of research and found that my interest in corns was shared with so many that I just couldnt resist getting a few high end ones just because I wanted them lol After about 5 corns... the shop got in a 4 foot burm... well, she bit everyone but me! so, the owner told me to take her and well, I did! She was a love! I had her for many many years. Guess I was over my phobia, huh? LOL anyway.... that is what started it... phobia and now almost 20 years later, my mom and I are breeding in small numbers and doing educational shops at schools and such. I really enjoy taking in snakes to schools and talking to kids! Its a blast. The best is when I can help someone else get over the fear of snakes and get them to see the real beauty of these creatures. We have about 70. I say about because well, I honestly dont want to know the total because I would probably get locked up LOL

Good luck with your interests and we are all still learning. Some advice is from here, some is from books, and most will be by trial and error.
 
I have kept 1 or 2 snakes on and off over the years, but this past summer was when my hobby really took off.

I was that type of child who was always catching snakes in the yard and pleading with my extremely snake-phobic mother to let me keep them. Her standard response was always "When you move out of the house." So, when I left for college I for my first snake - a rough green snake. Very cute, but not too interested in being held. I started working at an aquarium/reptile shop in northern California (where I was going to college) and learned a lot there from the owner, all the hobbyists who came in, and the fellow employees who where reptile-lovers. Lizards, geckos, snakes, you name it, they had it.

Over time I took on more responsibilities as I learned more and more. Our boss was pretty cool in that we could take home any of the books he had for sale to read and bring them back the next day. He really loved what he did and encouraged all of us to learn as much as possible. This was back in the mid 90's, btw. Eventually, it became my responsibility to feed all the snakes every weekend. We had boas, pythons, milksnakes, sand boas, kingsnakes, corns, rats, etc. I ended up getting to know them all, and ended up falling in love with 2 snakes (for their personalities) - the red tail boas and the cornsnakes. Not wanting a snake I might end up having to feed guinea pigs and rabbits to :) I opted to get my first cornsnake. One of the employees bred them and let me go over and pick out 2 babies - an anery and an amel. The amel was a complete "biznatch" and bit all the time. I ended up giving her back to Tom. But the anery was a complete love. He was super sweet and mellow, and as an adult I would take him everywhere with me, curled up around my neck, under my shirt. Ymir and I had many adventures, including him getting lost as I was moving back up to Oregon and him being found a month later by my landlady and having to be shipped up to Oregon during an ice storm!

When Ymir was 6-7 he died unexpectedly (started having seizures :() I was heartbroken (I actually had him cremated and still have his ashes in a little box). It took me a number of years before I was ready to get another snake. 4 years ago my bf and I saw a clutch of baby amels and normals in a local pet store and I decided I was ready for another snake. We picked out a normal with a funny head pattern, named her Selwyn (who we thought was a boy at the time) and she became our pet.

Well, last winter I decided to properly sex her and find her a mate. I was interested in trying to breed them, just once, to see what it was like. Being a biology teacher in high school, I was interested in the process and being able to share it with my students. I found a local breeder and picked out a snow corn, Hywel. At this point, I was not looking to breed seriously, more as a one time thing and has looking for a pretty snake with a good temperament that my students could handle. I started poking around on the internet and found the cornsnake forum. From there, things totally changed. I met lots of people who loved snakes just as much (or even more so!) than I did, and I also started seeing pictures of absolutely stunning cornsnakes that I didn't even know existed. Then, Adie (Silvergrin) posted an anery motley for sale that looked so much like my beloved Ymir that I had to get him (that would be Maelog). Once I received my first snake in the mail and realized that I could order awesome snakes from all over the US that had been bred by all these amazing people of the forum, I was so hooked! Over the summer I went from 2 snakes to 20, with plans for more. I read and learn through all the posts on the forum and continue to read various snake books. I have also started planning long-term projects with various morphs that I love (like lavender, sunkissed, and dilute).

My bf of 8 years likes the snakes but is not obsessed like I am. He likes to take out Selwyn, since she was our pet for several years before all the others came, but he tends to leave all things snakey to me. I also started breeding mice and rats in the garage to support my snake feeding. My bf likes the rats more than the snakes - he now has 3 pets in the living room :) However, he is very supportive of my obsession, to the point he let me turn the office into a dedicated snake room! I definitely could not be with someone who did not support my animal addiction (besides the snakes, we have 3 dogs, 3 cats, a red-eared slider, and a 2 ft lungfish).

I did manage to bring my mom over to the darkside (or is that into the light?) That's right, the snakephobic mom who refused to let me have a snake when I was growing up now has . . . I think 7 of her own? She lurks on the forum and reads all the posts, learning as much as possible. I think it is pretty funny how she has changed! I took my little brother to a reptile show in Oct. and she let him get a baby cornsnake from Jen (ghosthouse corns) and ended up liking him so much she got her own! And then another, and then another . . . .

Anyway, that is my story. Always loved snakes, but didn't really get into it seriously until last summer. Though, I guess I am not as "serious" as the people who have 100+ ~LOL~ But I still have time, oh yes I do! And it is a very addictive hobby, if I do say so myself.
 
I currently am in no way a serious herp breeder, I haven't even bred anything yet :p

But I am hoping to one day become a serious herp breeder, so I suppose I am in that "starting" stage now.

I love animals, and always have, though I grew up only owning cats, dogs, and fish. While in college I got my own apartment and starting keeping other animals that intrigued me. Most notably at the time was a hedgehog, and some birds. I was never interested in breeding them however, they were just fun.

When I bought my own house I decided I wanted a snake, I figured a cornsnake would be a good starter snake, and I'm glad I picked that species because I love them! I don't think I would have been as happy if I had went with ball pythons. I started with 1 cornsnake, Kathy Loves book (the katy manula :grin01:), and a whole lot of curiosity. After having 1 cornsnake...I had to get another. I decided I'd eventually like to try breeding so I got a good match for the first one. Then I got another, and another, and hope to get more. Then I branched into black milks, geckos, and now green tree pythons. Hoping to get a breeding pair of corns this year and be on my way, I can't wait for my first hatchlings, so exciting!! Basically I live on cs.com now, and am always learning new things. As for money, I just have an average job, and learn to stretch my money. I don't have lots of spare money, so my collection is slowly building...slowly but surely. I think that's a good way to do it though, so you don't get overwhelmed.
 
Ok so I really gotta know... how did most of you guys get started? ( I know there was a thread like this awhile back but I cant find it lol)

First off Im a 17 year old girl who lives with her mom. lol. I have one corn snake and I lurk on snake sites and forums like this one religiously. My interest for snakes has long been peaked and I really envy those of you who have thriving collections, and I too hope to one day have many more snakes of my own (corn or otherwise)

That being said, I'm really curious as to how a lot of you got started. How did you get interested? Who taught you all that you know? Where do you work to sustain this costly hobby? What about boyfriends/girlfriends/spouses and whatnot? Did you have someone prior and you lured them into the hobby with you, or did you meet someone at a reptile event or something?

I know these are kind of weird questions, but I honestly want to know.

:p

lurk religously??? lmao
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I got into the hobby when my ex picked up a black pine snake and I fell head over heels for her. I'd already had a rough green snake, and while I liked him, he didn't enthrall me the way my ex's pine did. It was only a few weeks later that I got my hognose. I don't keep a lot of animals, and I don't know if I qualify as a "serious" collector, but I have done a fair amount of fostering and rescue...

My husband...is ambivalent about the snakes really. Excepting the fact that they take up a lot of space right now. Once we're in our own place I'll have a room for the snakes, and I think he'll loosen up about letting the collection grow. I hope.
 
Until Jul 05 I was deathly afraid of all reptiles...
A friend had a few snakes and was breeding Beardies,
when he took the snakes out to feed, I went into another room.
Well, my son wanted a Beardie so my friend gave him a pair of babies.
I helped my son with the lizards and held them, reluctantly at first but
I started to be more frequently.
In Mar 06 we were at the reptile shop getting food for the Beardies
when a baby striped Motley caught my eye. I asked the guy to let me
see it. My family was astounded that I would hold it.
They were having a sale so, I bought him. I learned basic stuff from the manager at the shop.
Oct 06 I went to a reptile show with my friends and got my second snake.
I found this site and learned A LOT... I bought Kathy and Don's books too.
I only had the 2 snakes until I went to a BBQ for local CS.com members
before the Anaheim show Sep 07.

I picked up a couple that night from VinnyJ, I met Tim and Jen that night
and was picking Tim's brain.(I'm sure I was a pain in the backside.. lol)
I soon got a couple from Stephen, more from Vinny and finally several
from T and J.. The addiction took off...

I now have 103 snakes of which 90 are Corns.
I had my 1st full yr of breeding corns last yr and am planning 15 or so
pairings this yr.
I have learned so much from the great people on this site and consider
many of them my friends.
I love this hobby!
 
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