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1st Hatchling Weirdo!!

lajes

lajes

a bit freaky but nice!
Got my first Hatchling this year coming from a Blizzard x Ultramel Charcoal Breedin.
Female is a proven Breeder and dad is coming from a clean blizzard x blizzard pairin so i think you can imagine how confused i were seing this lil critter comin out of his egg but just watch yourself!!!!

I think this is what boilogists call reversion.

First thought was damn all the work for nothin but later on a very cute blizzard n 2 ultramel charcoals pipped out so he/she is unique so far but whats your opinion??
 

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Only was bred to an fire het ultramel charcoal pos caramel before
so no their couldnt be any retained sperm. It´s a miracle to me!
 
lajes said:
Only was bred to an fire het ultramel charcoal pos caramel before
so no their couldnt be any retained sperm. It´s a miracle to me!
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This is not true. If an ultramel charcoal is bred to a fire het ultramel charcoal then normal babies will be present in the clutch. That means that it could, in fact, be a case of retained sperm.
 
fyrefocks said:
This is not true. If an ultramel charcoal is bred to a fire het ultramel charcoal then normal babies will be present in the clutch. That means that it could, in fact, be a case of retained sperm.
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Furthermore, a fire cant be het ultramel. Im back to being confused again.
 
Srr my Bad!
first mate was a Fire het Charcoal no ultra involved!
Pics of the clutchmates l8ter!
 
fyrefocks said:
This is not true. If an ultramel charcoal is bred to a fire het ultramel charcoal then normal babies will be present in the clutch. That means that it could, in fact, be a case of retained sperm.
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If a fire is bred to an ultramel anything, than all the babies would have to be amels/ultramel based, no normals, so even if it was retained sperm it shouldn't have produced what looks like a normal to me. I'd have to say one of the parents isn't what they think. With all the confusion I've had with the ultra gene, is it possible the ultramel charcoal is really a hypo charcoal? that would make a normal a possibility.
 
if a Blizzard was produced this year, maybe it is a Hypo Charcoal het Amel all along?
 
True but up to know 1 Normal 2 Blizzards n 1 Ultramel Charcoal hatched
and 1 Ultramel Charcoal is pipping out of the egg so mom can´t be a hypo charcoal
or am i wrong?!
Here are two of his/her chlutchmates!!!
 

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A few years ago I bred an amel to a snow and got 1 normal in the clutch. The female was an amel that I raised from a baby and was a virgin so no chance at retained sperm. I talked to one of my genetics professors and he said since an albino animal is the result of a mutated gene sometimes during early cell development the mutation or "mistake" is corrected. It is VERY rare for something like this to happen but it does happen.

Ryan
 
Thats exactly what a biology student told me
she called it reversion theres an article on wikipedia
about this phenoumen! So i think its a very special lil critter
n im realy thinkin about keepin him!
 
Sry for double postin!

But now i´m totaly confused 4 more normals pipped out
n think thats a number which cant be declared by a
"nature correction"?!
 
maybe another female in her viv which is in fact a male? and she produced eggs from two different pairings?

would be a possibility?! I know somenone, who produced hybrids from hybrid x guttatus pairing. after first clutch he bred guttatus male to same female and she produced a second clutch. mostly pure guttaus corns in the eggs - and two or three hybrids (I think getulus was involved, so seperating them was pretty easy). Something like that would explain your results. :confused:
 
Nope no unknown genders live together with her they are
all seperated n only were put together with the males in single boxes!

Male is also from a clean Blizzard x Blizzard Pairing
i know the parents n they were corns withour any hybrid influence.

I´m dunno think we had to wait for first shed maybe they turn
out to be something else then they appear?!
 
I think she looks WAY dark compared to even most of the charcoals i've seen, but the two baby pics posted in the thread do look like charcoal morphs to my untrained eye. any chance she's anery het charcoal/etc or something like that? where did she come from, and what kind of babies has she had before? definitely an interesting thread (and so like my breeding issues...).
 
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