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thewad71

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Hi guys. Enjoying the site and all the pics.

Well, as a kid, my brother was supposedly allergic to cats and dogs so I always had reptiles. I had about 20 snakes at one point, all community types. I had a pair of corn snakes that bread to my surprise. 11 of the 13 hatched and still have the pictures (pre digital world).

The last year or so going in the pet stores for fish, cat toys, etc, I noticed more and more baby corn snakes and it really got me wanting another. My daughter is into everything as well. Whenever I find a ringneck outside, she enjoys checking it out then we let it go. Well today I got a baby. I will try to post a picture tomorrow and maybe you can tell me what kind it is. It is albino, but not really light colored. I have had my tank set up for a few weeks. I am supposed to get 2 free babies of a corn snake mated with a gray rat snake, but not sure that is going to happen and I grew tired of waiting. The little guy I got is very friendly. I still can't get over all the patterns there are now. Seeing some of the corns on here with stripes like a garter snake is wild.

On a side note, and not to post in the wrong area, but my favorite snake growing up was always the yellow rat snake. I see there are a lot of breeders on here. Any of them in South Florida? I would like to find a baby yellow now that I have a tank set up, and while the wife probably lets another one in LOL.

Once again, great site!
 
Welcome. Best of luck with your corn and good luck finding a yellow rat. I suspect there is someone here who has them.
 
Welcome back to snakes!
Yellow rats should be fairly easy to get, maybe at a reptile show or from a breeder rather than in shops though. Did you mean to put the new snake in with your corn or in a serarate tank? Most people keep them separately.
 
Welcome back to corns! :) I have a Rosy Rat Snake (also known as a Keys corn). Yellow Rats are pretty! I just Googled them. My 2 daughters have corns, too. We're into our 4th month of having corns, and we love it. :)
 
Welcome back! Once a reptile lover, always I think :) So glad your little one is interested to! Kids just don't have that fear ingrained that lots of adults seem to have! Good luck with your baby.
 
Welcome to the site and back to the wonderful (and always growing) world of corn snakes! I (nor many here) are fans of cohabitation. I can't suggest dtrongly enough getting a rack system if you plan on starting a collection.
thewad71 said:
I had about 20 snakes at one point, all community types. I had a pair of corn snakes that bread to my surprise.
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There are no community types. You can force that on them by keeping them in one enclosure, but it is neither natural or good for the animals. Fortunately, there are LOTS of rack systems out there these days. Economical, easy to maintain, and taking up surprisingly little room, these are the way to go. Here are a few links to ones I use:
http://www.reptilebasics.com/reptile-rack-systems
http://www.boaphileplastics.com/
And these are a bit more expensive, but I really like them: http://www.freedombreeder.com/shop/product-category/racks/reptile-racks

Best wishes!
 
Hi, and welcome to the site!
I just have to tell you though, there are no community type snakes, except maybe garters and I don't know enough about them to say for sure.

Over the last 20 years we have learned so much more than we knew before about keeping these creatures, and there are so many nice racks and habitats for sale now that were not available 20 years ago. By nature snakes are solitary creatures, only coming together to mate. If forced to share space together, they can have health issues and feeding issues due to stress. And even if they show no signs, stress is a silent killer and your pets could die months or years before their time. Not to mention a female forced to share space with a male will be constantly harassed and have no way of getting away and could end up breeding way too young. This can kill a female if they are too small to handle it.
Also, any new arrivals should be quarantined for at least 3 months (6 months is better though) in another area of the house in case of parasites or disease.

Anyway, I am glad you are here! Please don't feel bad about what we have told you, ok? We are very passionate about these animals and want the best for them. We also want your new/old adventure to be successful and for your animals to thrive under your care.
 
I find that garter snakes hybornate in groups and i find most western garters snakes in groups. Like the 3 i found under a 2foot by 1.5 foot piece of plywood but corns i have been told you do not find in groups.... I myself have my females in a 50 gal but my males in seperate 30 gal. Im in the process of making my rack
 
Interesting advice from all about cohabitation. I recall a buddy of mine when we were kids had about 4 adults all together and they all always huddled together. I definitely wouldn't feed them together as I know that can cause a problem. I will check out the rack systems you guys have posted. Like mentioned, I am sure a lot has been uncovered over the last 20 years. For now, here are some pics.
 

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Beautiful snake!!

The "cuddling together" that your friend witnessed is actually just competition for resources. That spot in the cage has the perfect temp that they all needed at that time, but to access it they had to all be there at once. It might not have looked aggressive, or stressful, but no doubt it was.

Imagine for a minute your worst enemy in this world, someone you can't stand to be around. Now imagine you were trapped in a room with that person with no way to get out, forever. On the outside, you might look pretty good. But your overall health would start to go downhill due to the stress you would be under.
 
Garters are kind of like community snakes, in a spacious enough tank its ok to have multiple snakes together. Its actually good for them, it reduces their stress. I have a solitary garter, it used to have a little friend but it passed away due to bad night crawlers.
 
Nice looking corn, welcome to the site as well. It's good to have more here. The corn looks a lot like my Amel when I first got him. I'm still learning morphs but I'm getting better, so I'm not 100% sure.
 
My daughter, 5 years old, is really enjoying him/her. Very friendly.
 

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