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Anery and yellow

cornsnake234

cornsnake234

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Ok, I know my ''anery'' is not a type B (charcoal) because.... i'm not sure but she seems too black to be one, and charcoal look more gray than black... but, if she is a type A, can someone tell my why she has almost no yellow on her neck?! maybe she is not an anery!??! :shrugs:

Here are some pics... sorry for the poor quality of light of the last ones....

When she was a baby...
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she's definately an anery, just one with very little yellow. If you're looking for one with yellow, then i'll take this one off your hands for ya. :D
 
I believe you have one of those 'rare' anery's that don't have yellow. Yet I can see a hint of it in the cheecks and down the side of the neck unless that's just a trick of the photography.

As an aside, if I recall correctly weren't charcoals named in part due to the eyes being so black, black irises as opposed to gray in the 'regular' anery?

D80
 
Beautiful girl. She reminds me of the anerys that popped up in my clutch last year. I love the black/white contrast when they are still young-uns. Gotta go check up on one of them this weekedn when I make it back home, see if I can't get some pic of her.
 
WOW, don't you DARE complain!!!! She's just lovely, I'm trying to get my hands on a low yellow anery and can't seem to find one. She was a very pretty hatchling and she's matured beautifully. Well done!
 
Thanks!! :crazy02:

But... i'm wondering, what are possible causes that makes her having almost no yellow? i guess genetics have something to do with this but... i don't know, is there a mix of two cornsnakes morph that gives anery with no yellow? :shrugs:

And... can she transmitt this trait to her babies, can this make, snow with no yellow or ghost with no yellow!?

Right now she is gravid for the first time and the eggs should be out of her soon (according to what i've read on this forum and in the cornsnake manual) ...she have had her pre laying shed last week, and since two days she is CONSTANTLY moving. I'm a little bit worried about her, I think she havent had a rest since about 24 hours. :eek1: She was breed to my hypo male there is about 4-5 weeks. I didn't brumated them, so do you think i can expect a good percentage of fertilized eggs anyway?

Thx for replies (sorry to ask so many questions)
 
cornsnake234 said:
Thanks!! :crazy02:

But... i'm wondering, what are possible causes that makes her having almost no yellow? i guess genetics have something to do with this but... i don't know, is there a mix of two cornsnakes morph that gives anery with no yellow?
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I don't want to come off as a smart-a...., but if we knew how to duplicate it, princess wouldn't be having trouble finding one without yellow!! :)

D80
 
I'd love to see a gene that produces anerys/charcoals without yellow, they are very cool.

The yellow on the chin/neck/sides appears to be accumulated, as opposed to produced. (I personally think the other yellows on the ground color of caramel/amber/butter are actively produced, though.)

I'm sure there would be some genetic element that would affect how much yellow is or isn't collected, but nobody has isolated such a gene yet. It would take some serious effort... since they don't hatch out with any indication of how much yellow they'll collect, it would require holding back quite a few and raising them to 6 months to a year old. You'd have to do this for two generations to get a good indication of a predictable inheritance pattern. And there's always the chance that the individual(s) you started with were not the result of a single predictable gene, meaning you'd have put in all that time and effort with nothing to show for it.

Even once something like that were proven, it would require working with homozygous parents to ensure the genotypes of the offspring without having to hold them back, too. (If you had a recessive "axanthism" and one parent was only a het, the hatchlings would all look the same until 6-12 months of age...)

That having been said, Rich has produced caramel anerys that he says never got those yellows. If someone eventually puts this to some testing and it proves out, we might have a good way to make "no yellow anerys" in the future. :)
 
cornsnake234 said:
Thanks!! :crazy02:

But... i'm wondering, what are possible causes that makes her having almost no yellow? i guess genetics have something to do with this but... i don't know, is there a mix of two cornsnakes morph that gives anery with no yellow? :shrugs:

And... can she transmitt this trait to her babies, can this make, snow with no yellow or ghost with no yellow!?

Right now she is gravid for the first time and the eggs should be out of her soon (according to what i've read on this forum and in the cornsnake manual) ...she have had her pre laying shed last week, and since two days she is CONSTANTLY moving. I'm a little bit worried about her, I think she havent had a rest since about 24 hours. :eek1: She was breed to my hypo male there is about 4-5 weeks. I didn't brumated them, so do you think i can expect a good percentage of fertilized eggs anyway?

Thx for replies (sorry to ask so many questions)
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To my knowledge, there are no real causes to the lack of yellow in some anerys. I think it's just that you got lucky with that snake. To try to perpetuate that look, you'd have to go through a selective breeding program (unless there is a real genetic mutation to it, then follow Serp's advice) to try to eliminate the yellow. Almost like the very rare anerys that never gain a lot of melanin in their background and keep that stark black and white contrast their whole lives. But if you don't want that snake, I'll take her off your hands. I have a male that is ready and willing for any female that crosses his path.......

BTW, I wouldn't mind seeing pics of hatchlings as they pip. I love the pipling pics, they're soooo cute ;).
 
Anyway, I think anerys looks great with yellow on their neck!.. that's the reason why i made this thread! ;)

E. g. guttata: I will post pics of babies if the eggs are good and if they hatch! :shrugs:

Here is a last pic of the future mom:

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And my male:

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These are all anery motley/stripe clutchmates and, as you can see, not only does their amount of black vary greatly, so does their amount of yellow. And don't ask me to pick a favorite, I love each one for it's individuality!
 
Nice anerys susan!! :) can I ask how many corns you have? because if those five are from the same clutch, i guess you have a big collection! :eek1:

E. g. guttata: Yes my male is Hypo, I wish i could produce gost one day, but for the moment, I just wish to have good eggs from that pairing and to hatch at least one of them! ;) I still don't know what to expect, i don't know what were their parents, so maybe there could be some surprises... :crazy02:
 
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