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Bloodred Corns

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ferdelance

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i have realized that i don't have too much room to keep too many snakes so i have decided to specialize in just one morph for now (Bloodreds)... however i only know the basic morphs of bloodreds (Bloodred, hypo, anery, fire, and striped). but I'm sure there are more that i don't know about so i you know any others or a place where i can find more that would be really appreciated.
 
Pretty much any color morph can be mixed with a pattern morph:

So you could have lavender bloods, snow bloods (avalanche), caramel bloods, butter bloods (sulphur), etc.
 
ANY other morph can be combined with the diffused pattern gene that makes 'bloodreds'.

For homozygous genes, and so far as I'm aware with the current trade names:

Diffused alone = "Bloodred" or "Diffused" (though your result may not be dark red or particularly diffused)

Charcoal + Diffused = Pewter
Anery + Diffused = Granite
Amel + Diffused = Fire (This would include 'sunglow' or 'reverse okeetee' or 'candy cane' by the way)
Lavender + Diffused = Plasma (YARRRGH... "Amethyst". Come on! Say it!)
Caramel + Diffused = "Caramel Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Ultra + Diffused = "Ultra Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Hypo + Diffused = "Hypo Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Lava + Diffused = "Lava Bloodred" (no trade name yet)

Striped + Diffused = "Striped Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Motley + Diffused = "Motley Bloodred" (no trade name yet)

Anery + Amel + Diffused = Avalanche (Snow Blood)
Anery + Hypo + Diffused = "Ghost Bloodred" (no trade name yet - I like "Titanium", so I'll suggest it now *grin*)
Charcoal + Hypo + Diffused = "Phantom Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Caramel + Hypo + Diffused = "Amber Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Amel + Caramel + Diffused = Sulfur (Butter Blood)

And that's about me tapped out for what I can work out right now *grins*

I don't think I've ever seen an adult Striped Blood (or any homozygous stripe+diffuse regardless of other morphs) - seems a bit counterproductive to combine two pattern morphs, though I suppose it'd get you a more patternless snake than the standard blotched. Same goes for Motley.
 
I love bloodreds too.
I completely lucked out and got a pair het for motley and bred them for the first time this year. One of the babies is a granite motley. Next year I plan to hold back a few of his sisters and breed them back to him.
I also have 3 motleys that most likely are bloodreds but I need to conduct a few breeding trials to prove it out. Motley with the bloodred morph does not resemble the motley pattern we all know and love. At least not with my animals. They start out striped and about halfway down the body the stripes give way to dashes and swirls. It is hard to describe. I don't have any pics of my granite motley boy on this computer but he is number #3333 in the acr if you want to take a peek. Ssthisto is right though about the bloodred motley or stripe animals being more patternless. You can hardly see the pattern at all on my motley might-be-blood yearlings!
Anyway, good luck with your bloodred projects. I'm glad there are other "bloodred nuts" like me out there! :)
 
Ssthisto said:
ANY other morph can be combined with the diffused pattern gene that makes 'bloodreds'.

For homozygous genes, and so far as I'm aware with the current trade names:

Diffused alone = "Bloodred" or "Diffused" (though your result may not be dark red or particularly diffused)

Charcoal + Diffused = Pewter
Anery + Diffused = Granite
Amel + Diffused = Fire (This would include 'sunglow' or 'reverse okeetee' or 'candy cane' by the way)
Lavender + Diffused = Plasma (YARRRGH... "Amethyst". Come on! Say it!)
Caramel + Diffused = "Caramel Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Ultra + Diffused = "Ultra Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Hypo + Diffused = "Hypo Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Lava + Diffused = "Lava Bloodred" (no trade name yet)

Striped + Diffused = "Striped Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Motley + Diffused = "Motley Bloodred" (no trade name yet)

Anery + Amel + Diffused = Avalanche (Snow Blood)
Anery + Hypo + Diffused = "Ghost Bloodred" (no trade name yet - I like "Titanium", so I'll suggest it now *grin*)
Charcoal + Hypo + Diffused = "Phantom Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Caramel + Hypo + Diffused = "Amber Bloodred" (no trade name yet)
Amel + Caramel + Diffused = Sulfur (Butter Blood)

And that's about me tapped out for what I can work out right now *grins*

I don't think I've ever seen an adult Striped Blood (or any homozygous stripe+diffuse regardless of other morphs) - seems a bit counterproductive to combine two pattern morphs, though I suppose it'd get you a more patternless snake than the standard blotched. Same goes for Motley.
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do all of the morphs u said have to have the diffused gene
 
ferdelance said:
do all of the morphs u said have to have the diffused gene
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In order to be a genetic "bloodred" yes, they do. The "diffuse" gene is the gene that, when homozygous, makes a 'normal' into a Bloodred.

So a Pewter without Diffuse is just a Charcoal corn.
A Granite without Diffuse is just an Anery.
And so on.
 
Charcoal + Bloodred

What would be the result of a Charcoal and Bloodred pairing?

I thought about pairing a Charcoal and Albino to try for some phantoms/ghosts but wonder what the result of the prior two would be???
 
Jcapicy said:
What would be the result of a Charcoal and Bloodred pairing?

I thought about pairing a Charcoal and Albino to try for some phantoms/ghosts but wonder what the result of the prior two would be???
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Charcoal X Bloodred = 100% normal het for charcoal and bloodred (assuming no hidden hets.)

Normal het charcoal and bloodred X Normal het charcoal and bloodred =

25% normal (which may or may not be het for charcoal, bloodred or both)
25% charcoal (which may or may not be het for bloodred)
25% bloodred (which may or may not be het for charcoal)
25% Pewter ("Charcoal Bloodred")

Incidentally... Charcoal X Albino does not and will not equal ghost/phantom.

A Phantom is a Charcoal Hypo.
A Ghost is an Anery Hypo.

When you say Albino you could mean "Snow" (Anery Amel) or just Amelanistic. Neither of these animals is, by default, het or homozygous for Hypo - which is a required ingredient for making Phantoms or Ghosts.
 
There are also

Lavender + Hypo + Diffussed = Hypo Lavender Bloodred (Don't know if there is a trade name.

and

Blizzard + Diffused = Whiteout? (Blizzard bloodreds which are Amel, Charcoal, Bloodreds.)

Jenn
 
Roy Munson said:
Nope. A hypo-charcoal is a phantom. A lav-diffused is indeed a plasma (although not everyone accepts the trade name).
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I, for one, hate that name. Nothing about any of the lav bloods I've seen says "plasma". Not sure what I'd use; but it woudln't be that.
 
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