bloodred, het lavendel

[sven]

Hello,

Last year, I bought bloodred which are het for lavendel. But if you breed a bloodred with a lavendel, you get normal hatchlings which are double het for plasma.

So how do you create those bloodreds, which are het for lavendel (or hypo lavendel)?

Greetings from belgium, sven

 

[Joejr14]

Hello,

Last year, I bought bloodred which are het for lavendel. But if you breed a bloodred with a lavendel, you get normal hatchlings which are double het for plasma.

So how do you create those bloodreds, which are het for lavendel (or hypo lavendel)?

Greetings from belgium, sven

Well I'm not Rich, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but...

I'd venture to guess that Rich created bloodreds het lavender by breeding a lavender bloodred (or hypo lav blood) with a lavender (probably het for bloodred, or hypo blood).

 

[reptile_jones]

Hello,

Last year, I bought bloodred which are het for lavendel. But if you breed a bloodred with a lavendel, you get normal hatchlings which are double het for plasma.

So how do you create those bloodreds, which are het for lavendel (or hypo lavendel)?

Greetings from belgium, sven

When you breed the normals het for bloodred and Lav, not all the babies will be plasma.

Some will be bloodred het Lav and/or Lav het for bloodred

 

[Joejr14]

When you breed the normals het for bloodred and Lav, not all the babies will be plasma.

Some will be bloodred het Lav and/or Lav het for bloodred

Yes but since lavender and bloodred are essentially simple recessive (lavender definitely is, bloodred for the most part is)... there's no way in the world to KNOW which lavenders are het for bloodred and which bloodreds are het for lavender.

Those snakes HAVE to be from a homozygous parent.

 

[TandJ]

When you breed the normals het for bloodred and Lav, not all the babies will be plasma

Not very many of at all will be Lavender Bloods..

Male is, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
Female is, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern

Offspring are predicted to be...
25.00%, Het for Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
12.50%, Bloodred Pattern, Het for Lavender
12.50%, Lavender, Het for Bloodred Pattern
12.50%, Het for Bloodred Pattern
12.50%, Het for Lavender
6.25%, Lavender, Bloodred Pattern
6.25%, Bloodred Pattern
6.25%, Lavender
6.25%, Normal

Regards.. Tim of T and J

 

[dwyn127]

When you breed the normals het for bloodred and Lav, not all the babies will be plasma.

In fact, you'll be very lucky if 1 of the babies is a Lavender Bloodred. I bred a pair this year and got 6 Normals and 4 Bloodreds ph Lavender. Not even 1 Lavender even though one of the parents was a Lavender.

 

[reptile_jones]

there's no way in the world to KNOW which lavenders are het for bloodred and which bloodreds are het for lavender.
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Not even if he were to breed back to the "het" morph?
example Lav ? het bloodred back to a bloodred.

 

[Rich Z]

Well, quite simply, if you breed a Lavender Blood Red to ANYTHING either homozygous OR heterozygous for Blood Red, ANYTHING Blood Red resulting from those breedings will be heterozygous for Lavender.

Along the same lines, breeding a Hypo Lavender Blood Red to anything homozygous or heterozygous for Blood Red that produces Blood Reds as a result will have those Blood Reds being heterozygous for Hypo Lavender.

And, of course, this can be applied to breeding to Lavenders and het Lavenders as well, using the same above mentioned multi homozygous stock, to produce Lavenders with known heterozygous traits.

 

[sven]

breeding bloodred, het lav x bloodred, het lav

I try to understand all this genetics stuff, but when I think I got the answer, I stumble upon something different. I need some help

When I breed bloodred, het lav x bloodred, het lav, according to me the outcome is :
3/4 bloodred, 66% het lav
1/4 lavender

But I used the kornnatterlexicon predictor, and here the outcome is :
3/4 bloodred, 66% het lav
1/4 lavender bloodred

Can somebody tell me what the correct outcome is? Many thanks beforehand for your help.

Greetings from Belgium, Sven

 

[Rich Z]

I would choose door #2.........

 

[highcolorcorns]

I'm trying to get better at this myself, but wouldn't you also get just plain bloodreds no hets???

 

[Susan]

I'm trying to get better at this myself, but wouldn't you also get just plain bloodreds no hets???

That's the "66% het lavender" part. Since you can't tell which of the bloodreds are het lavender, each one has a 66% chance of being het, but 33% will not be het.

 

[sven]

Rich,

Door nr. 2 sounds also better for me. But I don't know how you come to the 1/4 lavender bloodred

According to me, the square looks as following

BL lav

BL BLBL BLlav

lav BLlav lav lav

So, for me the lav lav is the 25% lavenders you get out of the clutch

Thanks for your opinion on this one

Greetings, sven

 

[Rich Z]

Rich,

Door nr. 2 sounds also better for me. But I don't know how you come to the 1/4 lavender bloodred

According to me, the square looks as following

BL lav

BL BLBL BLlav

lav BLlav lav lav

So, for me the lav lav is the 25% lavenders you get out of the clutch

Thanks for your opinion on this one

Greetings, sven

If this is true -> bloodred, het lav x bloodred, het lav

Bloodred HAS to be homozygous in all the offspring, since it is common to both parents. That is, of course, treating Bloodred as a single recessive gene, which it really doesn't always act like in all experiences. But in the theoretical case of a genetics predicting program, that would certainly have to be true based on the data provided.