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Cage Rearranging Stressful or Not?

AND I keep moving my thermometer to where I can't see it. ><;; Ooh, all I need is a good thermometer and the rest would be cake! Nice and easy cake!
 
Flagg said:
Much less than $20. more like $8. And if you have a UTH AND a lamp with no rheostat/lamp dimmer or thermostat, then it is definitely WAY too hot. That's why he's always on the cool side. You can get the thermometer at walmart for $8 and a lamp dimmer for another $8 or so. Borrow the money if you have to, it's for the health of your snake.
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The $8 ones at my Wal-mart didn't have the probe included. Make sure that the thermometer is above the UTH. My daughter didn't have it right over and it wasn't reading it correctly. Moved it over and it started registering correctly.

A couple of thick paperbacks under the tank will raise it enough to help keep the air circulating and the heat a little away from the tank. Never thought of using a towel to dampen the heat.. .but the thermostats are hopefully on the way.

I can understand money being tight, which is why I suggested the paperbacks or you might want to try the towels.
 
The problem with newspaper or towels over the UTH inside the tank is that snakes can burrow under them , and then they do no good. My 2nd corn was a burrower, he'd get under anything I put inside the tank.

The $8 indoor/outdoor thermometer I mentioned at walmart is the cheapest they have WITH a probe. Unless they've raised prices in the last couple weeks. I guess store prices and stock may vary. I'd go with the one for $11.88 that shows 2 temps and humidity at once.

And for the pinkies, if you find a local feeder breeder you can get about 20 or more for that $7. Here they are 3/1.00.
 
I've never personally put a UTH inside the tank. Actually, I didn't think they were designed to be inside the cage, which is why the books work as might the towel to dampen the effect.
 
A lot of people do that to try to keep the temp down, especially after they have affixed the UTH under the tank and can't remove it. Some people claim that 2-3 inches of aspen is safe enough and the corn knows better than to burrow down to the UTH. I don't believe it though, Ive seen too many pictures of burned corn snakes.
 
Can't you just a UTH that can't actually burn snakes- I have one that my snake may actually rest directly on but it's not very hot, so I need a heat lamp in winter. What is the highest temperature safe for a snake to be resting on?
 
Becca,

As far as I know, there is no such thing as a UTH that a snake can safely rest on. At least the ones that I've seen were designed to go under the tank. I've had my tank get up to 106 and the pad didn't feel that warm, but the glass sure did. :(

The warm part of the cage should be 85. Please get a good therometer and I think you will be very surprised at how hot that thing actually gets.
 
becca anderson said:
Can't you just a UTH that can't actually burn snakes- I have one that my snake may actually rest directly on but it's not very hot, so I need a heat lamp in winter. What is the highest temperature safe for a snake to be resting on?
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I don't think they make one. At least I've never found one. The safest temp a snake can rest on depends on the species of snake. It also depends on how long the snake will rest on it. It will not hurt a corn to come into momentary contact with something that is 90-100' (such as yourself), but you wouldn't want to keep it at that temp all the time. Over time, it will damage the snake.

You say you have one that doesn't get very hot. What exactly are the temps directly on the glass over the UTH and under the substrate? If you get a good digital thermometer with a probe, you may find it is hotter than you think. One of my tanks didn't seem very warm to me either, but when I put the probe on the glass, I was shocked to find it to be 130'.
 
I do not put the UTH's in the tank indeed... just under and between tank and UTH newspaper and/or towels. I see no disadvantage to it. Maybe themp on the bottom of the tub or viv underneath the bedding might be a little above max viv temp but the inhabitant surely cannot burn itself on it and if it thinks it is too hot it just won't dig that deep. I put a hide without bottom on the bedding above the UTH and for example my blue ot '06 loves lying in there on the slightly warmer bedding.
 
Blutengel said:
Maybe themp on the bottom of the tub or viv underneath the bedding might be a little above max viv temp but the inhabitant surely cannot burn itself on it and if it thinks it is too hot it just won't dig that deep. I put a hide without bottom on the bedding above the UTH and for example my blue ot '06 loves lying in there on the slightly warmer bedding.
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Surely if they couldn't burn themselves they wouldn't have burn pictures of snakes, but they do, so obviously some snakes will dig deeper. I know that I've been that warm to a person is a lot warmer to the snake and once I really started watching the temps in my tank (by buying a digital probe therometer), I watched it get really high and when I put my hand on the glass underneath, I had to pull my hand away because the surface was too hot to keep my hand on it. Interestingly enough, I could touch the UTH, but the glass retains heat and it couldn't touch the glass but for a few seconds.

Like a recently converted smoking non-smoker, let me say again. Everyone should do whatever it takes to buy themselves a thermostat for their snakes. You'll wonder how you ever did without one :)
 
I'm saving up for a good thermometer at the moment. I 'think' the UTH can only reach up to 100 farenheit, but I think it may cooler than that. It said specificall on the packaging it could'nt burn snakes, but I can't exactly take that as proof, can I.
 
Becca,

The UTH may "only" heat up to 100, but glass retains heat. I've personally see the probe on my digital therometer reach 106, before I popped the tank up on a couple of more paperback books to get it further away from the glass, and even then it managed to reach 99 on one occassion. That's dang hot.

$8 for a therometer isn't very much money and it's better than the stick on ones that you buy at PetCo, but if it is too much for you, I'd adivse you to start figuring what to do if that snake needs to go see a herp vet. My last bill for Lady G was $160. We still lost her and the bill still had to be paid.
 
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