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California Laws?

snakemom1961 said:
Michigans basic license is $15.00. Add a trout stamp and it's 28 dollars. Not a bad price compared to Cali.
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Yea...but...it's Michigan...;). Although, you do have the Manistee and the AuSable, so...you've got THAT going for you. I don't like lakes, so the big freshwater ocean you have in your backyard does nothing for me...though I do like steelies on a fly...

I don't mind paying $40 for a fishing license, because I have plenty of year-round fishing right out my back door, and I don't need to purchase a sperate trout stamp. One license and I can target any freshwater species I want, except salmon, which I have nowhere near me, so I don't care...:D.
 
LOL.. While it's true Michigan doesn't have NEAR the trout fishing streams as there are out west. Northern Michigan has the 2 you mention along with some other great fly fishing streams. Our trout stamp is also good for salmon which run the rivers in the fall. My son will be out fishing in about a week and other then work we won't see him again till probably November...LOL
 
snakemom1961 said:
LOL.. While it's true Michigan doesn't have NEAR the trout fishing streams as there are out west. Northern Michigan has the 2 you mention along with some other great fly fishing streams. Our trout stamp is also good for salmon which run the rivers in the fall. My son will be out fishing in about a week and other then work we won't see him again till probably November...LOL
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I was just giving you a hard time. I am well aware of the QUALITY Blue Ribbon trout streams you have, as well as the lake-run steelies and salmon runs that are scattered ALL OVER the northern part of Michigan. You guys have some amazing cold-water fisheries, and your warm-waters are pretty darn tasty, too.

I went fishing on Thursday, though. Caught loads of browns on dry flies in early March, and THAT is reeeeeaaaaaally difficult to do in northern MI...
 
So it looks like I need to spread some rep around before giving it to most of you again.
I always wondered what you guys were talking about when you post that phrase!!
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tyflier said:
I was just giving you a hard time. I am well aware of the QUALITY Blue Ribbon trout streams you have, as well as the lake-run steelies and salmon runs that are scattered ALL OVER the northern part of Michigan. You guys have some amazing cold-water fisheries, and your warm-waters are pretty darn tasty, too.

I went fishing on Thursday, though. Caught loads of browns on dry flies in early March, and THAT is reeeeeaaaaaally difficult to do in northern MI...
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So very true considering our trout season doesn't open till the last week in April.....LOL
But your right, We have some great Trout streams up north and I LOVE stream fishing, ain't nothing like it. All my kids do it and have learned the fine art of "trying" not to snag the logs while thier line floats downstream.

If you have TOO many fish in your freezer I could always send you my address ya know........LOL
 
tyflier said:
The "special permission" you need in order to breed california native snake species is a rather easily obtained permit from the DFG out of the headquarters in Sacremento. The hard part is the possiblity of a "facilities inspection", and I believe there may be an examination to prove your basic husbandry and breeding skills are "up to par". The application for permit is available at the DFG website for download. It's called the "Permit for Propogation of Native California Snake Species", and I believe it is renewable on a yearly basis. A $40 fishing license is the resident price for a full year(1/01 through 12/31). It is also my understanding that albino variations are exempt from this ruling. .
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http://www.dfg.ca.gov/licensing/pdffiles/fg1502.pdf

Here's the reg on that...
Looks like what you say is true, but ONLY with the following authorized spp..

Lampropeltis getulus californiae
Pituophis melanoleucus (deserticola, catenifer, annectens and affinis)
Lichanura trivirgata (roseofusca, and gracia)

So that's Cali Kings, Gophers (great basin, pacific, san diego and sonora), and Rosy Boas (coastal and desert) which are the subspecies that can be propogated, imported, exported, or possessed for commercial purposes. (or purchased or sold)

The "Albino" exclusion relates to other species though. "No permit is required for the possession, propagation, importation, exportation, transportation, purchase or sale of captively bred native albino reptiles or amphibians."

Sorry for this thread sorta' morphing into one that doesn't necesarily belong in this section.
I'll try to right that after sunday (when I will attempt to find a rubber boa!)
 
snakemom1961 said:
So very true considering our trout season doesn't open till the last week in April.....LOL
But your right, We have some great Trout streams up north and I LOVE stream fishing, ain't nothing like it. All my kids do it and have learned the fine art of "trying" not to snag the logs while thier line floats downstream.

If you have TOO many fish in your freezer I could always send you my address ya know........LOL
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Sorry...Catch & Release, only...I'm a sportsman, not a meat hunter, though I take no issue with individuals that choose to keep their fish within legal limits. Plenty o' fish for all to enjoy...

Tom E--

Yea...I've been through those regs a few times, and have even talked with local DFG wardens about them. It's not really difficult to get the permit...but you definitely need to know your stuff and be ready to prove it...

Thanks for the link, though. 'Preciate it :cheers:
 
tom e said:
Now just to make it crazier, if I have 2 license caught rb's and they breed cause I cohabed, I am also required to turn over the babies to the state!
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I believe you've been misinformed. While you cannot purchase the snakes, you can receive them as a gift. Also, there is a grace period for hatchlings you produce, after which you cannot keep the snakes. You can, again, give them away. Also, the snake limit is per member of the household, so you could have two, your wife could have two, your kid could have two, etc. The one thing you cannot do is sell them. The law is the same for most indigenous wildlife, though there are specific exceptions for animals that have long standing histories of being kept as pets, such as Cali king snakes.
 
That's good to know Lee, thanks.
I wonder if anyone has a rubber boa they'd like to give me? I'd be willing to pay a "premium shipping cost"!! Plus a little extra for the deli cup... :grin01:
 
I don't know about San Bernardino Mts. but I used to live in Yucca Valley/Morongo Valley, and visited as recently as 4 years ago. When I lived there I would see Rosey Boa at least 5 days out of 7, gopher at least once a week, rattlers never. Lots of other snakes racers... If you can get up one of the canyons you should have a good day herping. Stay away from Joshua Tree Nat. Monument, the rangers are hawks.
 
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