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Classic vs. Okeetee?
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SnakesRule1234
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Yes...
Okeetee is a selectively bred classic.
Okeetee is a selectively bred classic.
Jay@PJCReptiles
"Quality Before Quantity"
This depends on how you look at this. There are two versions of Okeetees.
1. Original Okeetee Hunt Club stock (wild caught)
2. Line bred Okeetees
It started with the wild caught ones that were found at the Okeetee Hunt Club. This wild line is known to have bright coloration and very thick borders to the saddles. Kathy love was one of, if not the first person to work with these wild lines. She and a couple of others (Lee Abbott for one) have taken these Corns and line bred and outcrossed them into other Normal lines in order to reproduce/replicate the dark, thick borders in other lines of Normals. Kathy and others have done a awesome job with this line by not only reproducing this look but have made it more prominent in their stock. Kathy and Lee produce these "Okeetees" and they are very highly coveted by keepers for additions to their collections.
To answer your question exactly.... an "Okeetee" is a Normal Cornsnake but has been line bred to achieve this certain look of bright colors and thick, black borders. You also need to remember as this snake is "line bred" and not a natural genetic mutation that the snake in question can not be het/homo for "Okeetee". When bred together there is no guarantee that the whole clutch will be Okeetees. More then likely you will have some, if not all, be Okeetees but again that is no guarantee. An Okeetee is a Normal but a Classic/Normal is not an Okeetee. Hope this helps.
Jay
1. Original Okeetee Hunt Club stock (wild caught)
2. Line bred Okeetees
It started with the wild caught ones that were found at the Okeetee Hunt Club. This wild line is known to have bright coloration and very thick borders to the saddles. Kathy love was one of, if not the first person to work with these wild lines. She and a couple of others (Lee Abbott for one) have taken these Corns and line bred and outcrossed them into other Normal lines in order to reproduce/replicate the dark, thick borders in other lines of Normals. Kathy and others have done a awesome job with this line by not only reproducing this look but have made it more prominent in their stock. Kathy and Lee produce these "Okeetees" and they are very highly coveted by keepers for additions to their collections.
To answer your question exactly.... an "Okeetee" is a Normal Cornsnake but has been line bred to achieve this certain look of bright colors and thick, black borders. You also need to remember as this snake is "line bred" and not a natural genetic mutation that the snake in question can not be het/homo for "Okeetee". When bred together there is no guarantee that the whole clutch will be Okeetees. More then likely you will have some, if not all, be Okeetees but again that is no guarantee. An Okeetee is a Normal but a Classic/Normal is not an Okeetee. Hope this helps.
Jay
kathylove
Pragmatic & Logical
Different breeders may use the terms slightly differently from each other, so ask the breeder if you are not sure.
In my lines, an okeetee is a normal corn that is, to the best of my knowledge, (although I did not catch the ancestors myself, so can't guarantee lineage) descended from animals from the okeetee area (Jasper County) in S. C. I (just like many other breeders) have been breeding them for many generations to try to produce animals with the bright colors, thick borders, thick black belly checkers, lack of dark longitudinal striping (common on wild caught okeetees) that has come to symbolize okeetees these days. Try to find a wild one like that - you will probably look a long, long time, lol! Although the wild corns from that area are often pretty, and often show some prized okeetee traits, very few will look anywhere near as pretty as a typical c.b. baby from a long line of selectively breed okeetees. But not every c.b. baby from outstanding parents will look as good as mom and dad do...and of course, some will look better. But most will probably look similar to their parents and grandparents. It can be difficult to tell which are the best babies, until they are several months to a year old. Looking at the parents may be more helpful than looking at the babies themselves.
In my lines, "classic" corns are any normals that I think will be prettier than usual, but they are not specifically okeetees or Miami phase. They could have some of those lines in them, or some bloodred, or just a mixture that has produced what looks like will be a really pretty normal corn.
Many other breeders will use the terms the same way I do. But when in doubt, ask.
In my lines, an okeetee is a normal corn that is, to the best of my knowledge, (although I did not catch the ancestors myself, so can't guarantee lineage) descended from animals from the okeetee area (Jasper County) in S. C. I (just like many other breeders) have been breeding them for many generations to try to produce animals with the bright colors, thick borders, thick black belly checkers, lack of dark longitudinal striping (common on wild caught okeetees) that has come to symbolize okeetees these days. Try to find a wild one like that - you will probably look a long, long time, lol! Although the wild corns from that area are often pretty, and often show some prized okeetee traits, very few will look anywhere near as pretty as a typical c.b. baby from a long line of selectively breed okeetees. But not every c.b. baby from outstanding parents will look as good as mom and dad do...and of course, some will look better. But most will probably look similar to their parents and grandparents. It can be difficult to tell which are the best babies, until they are several months to a year old. Looking at the parents may be more helpful than looking at the babies themselves.
In my lines, "classic" corns are any normals that I think will be prettier than usual, but they are not specifically okeetees or Miami phase. They could have some of those lines in them, or some bloodred, or just a mixture that has produced what looks like will be a really pretty normal corn.
Many other breeders will use the terms the same way I do. But when in doubt, ask.
Lennycorn
Just see the truth
Just another links to more info on the subject. http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28728