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SquamishSerpents

SquamishSerpents

Katia
i wasn't sure if this should be in this forum, or the breeding one, so here goes.

i was just wondering if any of you have any pictures of a baby male, and a baby female corn snake side by side? i've searched around and found pictures like this of adults, but not babies. i haven't named my snake yet, so i kind of would like to get an idea of it's gender. but i do not want to pop or probe it, as i have no experience and i don't want to hurt my baby!
 
or i suppose i could post a picture of my babies tail end and you guys can guess at it's gender?
 

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You won't be able to tell the gender just by photograph of a male vs female corn picture...the only way to tell the gender is by either popping or probing the snake which should be done by someone with experience or a vet..Another supposed way to tell from what I heard is that female tails extend longer and are much skinnier and pointy then the male tails which are supposedly shorter and less pointy at the end..I don't know how much truth there is to this...also I was told females grow quicker then males..but the sure way is through pop/probe..good luck to you
 
I've got a couple baby girls right now that if I was going by tail shape I would swear were males. The male's tail differs in shape because he has to store his "stuff" in there. The female's tail is just a tail.
 
As the others have said, this is not the definitive way to do this. But if I were to guess from the pictures, I'd say you have a female.
 
You could try the flashlight method as your snake is pretty light in color. You need extra hands, but you hold the snake above and below vent, put a flashlight very close to the back side at the vent shining toward you. If you see to little red things about the size of a thread going from the vent toward the tail it's a male. good luck, susang
 
Yeah, popping is probably the best way to go with a young snake; probing for older snakes.
I had a female that I was afraid might actually have been a male (would have ruined the breeding plans for this year!) from her tail shape. People here thought it looked like a boy, I had someone show me how to probe and even HE thought it was a boy looking at the tail... but probed as a girl! So, moral of the story is, popping or probing are the surest methods!
 
Male tails are longer and stay wider after the vent, because they store their hemipenes in there.
Female tails are shorter and thinner after the vent, because they have no bits back there.

Probing and popping by someone experienced is the most accurate way of sexing though.
 
yes my snake is quite transparent, when he's done eating i can see the mouse in it's tummy, not just because of the bulge, but i can actually see a dark spot after he's just eaten.

okay i tried the flashlight thing, i looked from top, bottom, and both sides and couldn't see anything. how obvious are these little thready veins?
 
They look like two tiny little threads from the vent toward the tail. Flashlight at the back facing you. Very tiny.
 
As mentioned in another currrent thread, if you can take a real good picture of it's tail, or wait for a shed, you can try counting the pairs of scales from the vent to the tail. Males have more than females. Supposedly is fairly accurate and a good way to spend a day with a magnifying glass.
 
On a hatchling they are usually just short of a centimeter long. (the hemipenes)

On a mature adult male they can be up to three inches long.

Guessing by your picture and counting the subcaudal scales as best I could...I think you may have a female?

Hope that helps,
 
yes, i also believe i have a female! hooray! that's what i was hoping for (i don't know why). my snakey still has not got a name. i like the name "focus" but everyone else seems to hate it. "ewwww ford focus" is what they say! any suggestions?
 
OKAY! so today, i asked my boss if she felt confident enough in her "popping" skills to show me how to do it, and she did, and you can't IMAGINE how surprised/excited i was to see a hemipenis! hahahaha. this was one of the snakes at my pet store, and i tried it on the other one, and nothing came out. so that one is a female, and i tried it on my baby, and SHE is also a FEMALE! (unless there is such a thing as being too small to pop) but i've read that most breeders do it when they are still just hatchlings, so i am fairly certain my snake is a female! that is sooo cool! haha sorry, excuse the excitement :p
 
katia said:
OKAY! so today, i asked my boss if she felt confident enough in her "popping" skills to show me how to do it, and she did, and you can't IMAGINE how surprised/excited i was to see a hemipenis! hahahaha. this was one of the snakes at my pet store, and i tried it on the other one, and nothing came out. so that one is a female, and i tried it on my baby, and SHE is also a FEMALE! (unless there is such a thing as being too small to pop) but i've read that most breeders do it when they are still just hatchlings, so i am fairly certain my snake is a female! that is sooo cool! haha sorry, excuse the excitement :p
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I'd also try popping multiple times. I'm getting fairly good at it, but I still fail to see hemipenis of my little boys sometimes. Pop one day, then go back and do it the next to make sure you did it right. :)
 
okay! thanks for the tip! is there such a thing as "too small" to pop though? i'm still unsure of that. cause the one slightly bigger corn we have popped easily, the other one didn't, so i assume it's a female. however the other one is quite a bit smaller. and the bigger snake i believe is too big to pop.

i think i read that they have more control over their umm hemipenis muslces? hahaha. i don't know how to put it. but when they get bigger you can't pop em, correct?
 
katia said:
okay! thanks for the tip! is there such a thing as "too small" to pop though? i'm still unsure of that. cause the one slightly bigger corn we have popped easily, the other one didn't, so i assume it's a female. however the other one is quite a bit smaller. and the bigger snake i believe is too big to pop.
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I've never heard that a snake is 'too small to pop'. Keep in mind, though, the smaller they are, the smaller the hemipenis are.

i think i read that they have more control over their umm hemipenis muslces? hahaha. i don't know how to put it. but when they get bigger you can't pop em, correct?
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That's correct. You can only pop hatchling size snakes. Popping a juvenile or older would be exceptionally difficult and could injure the animal.
 
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