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Copperhead in the barn.........How do we handle this??!!?

Hey John3:16

I think now you should tell your teenage son and his younger sister that you will release Lampropeltis to control the Agkistrodon contortrix population.
That information should ease there Cerebrum.
 
Lennycorn said:
Hey John3:16

I think now you should tell your teenage son and his younger sister that you will release Lampropeltis to control the Agkistrodon contortrix population.
That information should ease there Cerebrum.
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Wow, those are big words for you Lenny!
 
Well give thanks you Snakemaster. I just I want to share my huge to occupy of snake very partner thin skin those truth intensely market place.
 
I agree that the protection of our children comes above all else. I just get a kick out of the fact that our method for protecting our children is to destroy anything that remotely endangers their well being. Imagine if we took that approach to everything that poses a risk?!?! :shrugs:

Wayne
 
VickyChaiTea said:
When introducing animals to control the population of other animals, it is EXTREMELY important to NEVER introduce anything that is NOT native. Just wanted to clarify that.
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Definitely true. I was very disappointed to learn that the only kingsnake species in Washington are in southernmost area of WA. I'd love to see kingsnakes in the wild here!
 
I'm actually fairly tempted to breed the snake eaters. I'd have to research out what sort of permits I'd need, though. I know that in order to sell native species that a permit is needed. I'm not sure about breeding. But anyways, there's seven species of snake in my area that eats snakes (there's one other, but it's way to the west in the pan handle). The Speckled and Prairie Kingsnakes, Coachwhip, Racer, Milksnake, Northern Scarletsnake, and Western Hog-nosed snake. I'd lean towards the first three snakes, to be honest.
 
Dave, is just immature. Ignore him. Anyway, yes all Kingsnakes and milksnakes are snake eaters, they are in the genus Lampropeltis. They are immune to the venom of vipers. Don't do captive breeding for release you could release bacteria, fungus, and viruses that snake in nature are not used to.
 
snakemaster24 said:
Yes, by professionals in a professional setting.
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One of us, with our love for snakes and baseline knowledge, could get training and work with a professional organization to do it. Raptor could talk to local people involved in reptile conservation & find out how she could start participating in such a program where the captive hatched could be released into the area she lives in, which would benefit everyone including the Lampropeltis species that are native to her area. We shouldn't do it on our own, obviously, but there are programs, and I see nothing wrong with asking to join a program that does it with proper science behind it, right?

I gotta say one more time the OP, John3:16, must be a great mom. Her kids kept their cool and went and got her, way to go to her and her kids!
 
There does have to be a science behind it. It is a difficult task and care needs to be taken while in the process.
 
wstphal said:
One of us, with our love for snakes and baseline knowledge, could get training and work with a professional organization to do it. Raptor could talk to local people involved in reptile conservation & find out how she could start participating in such a program where the captive hatched could be released into the area she lives in, which would benefit everyone including the Lampropeltis species that are native to her area. We shouldn't do it on our own, obviously, but there are programs, and I see nothing wrong with asking to join a program that does it with proper science behind it, right?

I gotta say one more time the OP, John3:16, must be a great mom. Her kids kept their cool and went and got her, way to go to her and her kids!
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I tend to thinks a home style version is more suited for John 3:16 situilation.
Is she will to pay for the "professionals in a professional setting"
(I'm lost on what a professional setting is tho.)
 
Lennycorn said:
I tend to thinks a home style version is more suited for John 3:16 situilation.
Is she will to pay for the "professionals in a professional setting"
(I'm lost on what a professional setting is tho.)
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Well, if she's interested in the fight-snakes-with-snakes strategy, I think it will require phone calling to conservation groups & maybe the State U to find out if anyone is working on anything like this and would they like to come out & use her property for it or would they like her to be involved in raising & releasing Lampropeltis? Or at least that's how I would go about it. I don't want to push her to do anything in particular, I'm just throwing out suggestions here.

Alternative idea -- find out what she could do around her property to make it super-friendly to the local Lampropeltis so they will live in the immediate vicinity of her home and feast on crotalid hatchlings thereby knocking down the crotalid population. Again, maybe the above organizations would know what simple changes if any would make her property a Lampropeltis paradise so they will do what comes naturally to them.
 
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this idea....
the only problem is that we are leaving next year..our lease is up then...BUT
When we get into a place that we own and will be living at for more than one year, I WILL do this....
We are fairly near the university of TN, I wonder if they could help.

I'm bumed:(...the herp major went back to Vanderbilt university and can't help any more....he suggested snake tongs........what do you all think?

Dedicated 5 gal snake bucket (with lid lol) hung out there and tongs....take em up to frozen head state park?...is that even legal?:confused:

Noobs using tongs....input?
 
If you get a long enough pair of tongs...this is a great idea. Toss them into a trash can with locking lid. Contrary to popular belief, most venomous snakes aren't evil, aggressive beasts. I have a southern copperhead as a pet that is just as inquisitive and docile as most of my corns. Granted, I don't handle her...but I probably COULD if I desired.

Another tip....if you DO get a pair of tongs, practice using them on the next black rat you catch.
 
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