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Corn Snake 245 grams - How much should I be feeding him/her?

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jaxie1794

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I'm not really sure what the gender is, but I'm pretty sure its a girl. Anyway, its 245 grams and I've been feeding it two 9-13 gram mice once a week. Its about a year and a half old. I've been following the Munson Feeding Plan but it stops at 170g+. How much should I be feeding it now? I order my mice from laynelabs.com. If someone could tell me what how big of mice I should get and how often to feed it that would be great.
 
I'm not really sure what the gender is, but I'm pretty sure its a girl. Anyway, its 245 grams and I've been feeding it two 9-13 gram mice once a week. Its about a year and a half old. I've been following the Munson Feeding Plan but it stops at 170g+. How much should I be feeding it now? I order my mice from laynelabs.com. If someone could tell me what how big of mice I should get and how often to feed it that would be great.
 
I would switch to one weanling 16-20 g for a few meals, and then one adult mouse between 21 and 25 grams. I would be feeding her every seven days until she's 300g, then go to every ten days, keeping an eye on her weight to make sure she is gaining slowly but steadily.
 
IMO, if you're not breeding, females can probably go every 2 weeks, and every 7-10 days if they produce a clutch of slugs that takes a lot out of them until they gain their weight back.
 
-When they're on single pinks (2-3g), I feed every 4-5 days. (Snake = 4-15g)
-Double pinks (3g x 2) every 4-5 days. (Snake = 16-23g)
-Small fuzzies (5-7g) every 5-6 days. (Snake = 24-30g)
-Regular fuzzies (7-9g) every 5-6 days (Snake = 30-50g)
-Hoppers (9-12g) every 5-6 days (Snake = 51-90g)
-Weaned (14-20g) every 7 days (Snake = 91-170g)
-Adult (24-30g) every 7-x days (Snake = 170+)
-Jumbo Adults (40-50g) every 7-x days (Snake = 400g+)

Hope this helps!
 
I thought I already answered this. Please do not start multiple threads with the same question- it is confusing.
 
ShenziSixaxis said:
I'd feed whatever is 1.0-1.5 times the widest girth of the snake or looks close every 7-10 days.
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In the thread I started about this, the issue is that large mice are smaller than my snake, and jumbo mice and rats are said to be too fatty. I don't know if the OP of this thread has the same problem, but it definitely threw me off.
 
That is a small to medium-sized mouse, not a large or jumbo.

Here's a link to a nutritional chart. Most people feed cornsnakes mice, some people feed rats. It's been my experience that cornsnakes can get hooked on rats and refuse to eat mice. Rats are also quite a bit more expensive.
 
It doesn't matter drastically unless you have fat rats or fat mice... aslong as the rodents are fed properly then it shouldnt make too much difference... Large mice are definately cheaper.
 
^ I can't agree more with this. I notice that if I feed mainly cat food and table scraps, my rats (even the young, growing pups) get a little chubby, as opposed to dog food and table scraps.

jessicalb said:
In the thread I started about this, the issue is that large mice are smaller than my snake, and jumbo mice and rats are said to be too fatty. I don't know if the OP of this thread has the same problem, but it definitely threw me off.
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Fat = energy.

Just feed less often.

jaxie1794 said:
If feeding 21-25 grams once a week should I feed her pup rats or large mice? Or which one is more nutritional?
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At this point it's quite similar. Rats have more meat in a similar size compared to mice though.
 
jessicalb said:
In the thread I started about this, the issue is that large mice are smaller than my snake, and jumbo mice and rats are said to be too fatty. I don't know if the OP of this thread has the same problem, but it definitely threw me off.
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I was recently told by a seemingly knowledgeable reptile hobbyist that the sooner you can get corns on rat pups the better - he said that rats have more protein than mice, and that mice are more fatty than rats. I am in no way backing up this statement as I am no expert myself, just putting it out there. It sounds like it could be right just from comparing the appearance of a pinky to a rat pup - pinkies seem to be slightly more yellowish in colour like fat with rounder bellies and rat pups seem to be darker in colour and leaner - but please tell me if I am out to lunch with this, again - no expert.
 
I would definately just stick to mice, if you're bredding them yourself, then rats will produce larger litters (on average) and you have the added bonus of not waiting so long until they are at the right weight (as they are born basically at the same weight as a week old mouse)... but if youre truely concerned about fatty mice, keep them on a diet of oats, fruit and cat/dog biscuits and whack a hamster wheel in there, or what i have done is build a double decker mouse house, with the food at the bottom and the bedding at the top and they have to climb a rope to get in between.. I figure it gives them a better quality of life and stops them laying about.. But again, I really cant see a drastic difference between mice and rats :)

Rat bonus:

Larger pups at birth, and can support more babies

Rat flaws:

Need a larger cage, need more food, are more expensive

but its up to you!
 
Katrina DLB said:
I was recently told by a seemingly knowledgeable reptile hobbyist that the sooner you can get corns on rat pups the better - he said that rats have more protein than mice, and that mice are more fatty than rats. I am in no way backing up this statement as I am no expert myself, just putting it out there. It sounds like it could be right just from comparing the appearance of a pinky to a rat pup - pinkies seem to be slightly more yellowish in colour like fat with rounder bellies and rat pups seem to be darker in colour and leaner - but please tell me if I am out to lunch with this, again - no expert.
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I was actually told the same thing by a former zookeeper/reptile expert a few weeks ago. My corns are all still young but I'm thinking I'll try to do a mixed diet alternating mice and rats when they are older.
 
Nanci said:
That is a small to medium-sized mouse, not a large or jumbo.

Here's a link to a nutritional chart. Most people feed cornsnakes mice, some people feed rats. It's been my experience that cornsnakes can get hooked on rats and refuse to eat mice. Rats are also quite a bit more expensive.
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So if I am understanding the Nutritional Chart correctly, neonatal rats have a much more protein and much less fat when compared to a juvie mouse - but a neonatal mouse is listed as having substantially more protein and less fat than a neonatal rat. So would it be correct in reasoning that pinks are best until your snake outgrows them, then rat pups are better than juvie mice? I don't know!
 
Well I think BHB feed mice the whole time, and they breed a tonne. At the end of the day, they are wild animals and in the wild theyd eat what came to them. My point is, the grade of 'healthy corn' is quite wide in terms of feeding; it's not likely that your corn will be malnourished/unhealthy because of eating mice or rats. I think that you are far more likely to experience problems (providing the rodents you do feed, are of good condition and are fed to the snake properly) due to husbandry issues, and your snakes will regardlessly lead long and healthy lives... perhaps if you are breeding them every year then protein values will come into a more influential role in the health and repair of a gravid female, but otherwise id stick to a reliable and practical source, even if it means alternating every so often. :)
 
hoppadoodle12 said:
Well I think BHB feed mice the whole time, and they breed a tonne. At the end of the day, they are wild animals and in the wild theyd eat what came to them. My point is, the grade of 'healthy corn' is quite wide in terms of feeding; it's not likely that your corn will be malnourished/unhealthy because of eating mice or rats. I think that you are far more likely to experience problems (providing the rodents you do feed, are of good condition and are fed to the snake properly) due to husbandry issues, and your snakes will regardlessly lead long and healthy lives... perhaps if you are breeding them every year then protein values will come into a more influential role in the health and repair of a gravid female, but otherwise id stick to a reliable and practical source, even if it means alternating every so often. :)
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That makes a lot of sense!! Thanks for the advice:)
 
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