Cornetto ;)

Hutchie91 · Dec 13, 2010

just put a post on newbies section but thought id stick one on here too, im sure this would be more viewed

couple of pics of my female corn, not 100% on the breed but told its a creamsicle by the guy in the shop

again, not 100% on the breed, so any help would be much appreciated

i will post pics as i take them, shes a lil camera shy atm but im sure i can get her to love it

Sarah1228 · Dec 13, 2010

Awe so precious!

The only way to know for sure is if you know the genetics of the parents. If one parent was a Creamsicle (half rat snake/half corn) then the babies are Creamsicles (hybrid snake).

If the guy at the shop is only guessing by the color, then you will never know for sure and it would just be an Amelanistic corn snake.

What ever she is she sure is a cutie! Congratualtions!!!

slitheringdead · Dec 13, 2010

She has an interesting white/almost plastic looking color on her head. Awesome!

Hutchie91 · Dec 13, 2010

yeah shes got it around her smaller spots and on her belly too, her belly is checked, part white part clear-like, looks awsome, hope it sticks

tspuckler · Dec 13, 2010

It looks more like a standard amel than a creamsicle. The problem with creamsicles is if they just have a little bit of Emory's Rat Snake in them, they look like regular amel corns. It seems that people haved moved away from the 50% corn/50% Emory Rat Snake cross which was orginally used to create a faded orage (creamsicle-colored) snake. Therefore, you will not be able to tell for sure what your snake is by looking at it or posting pics.

Creamsicle baby:

Creamsicle adult:

Hutchie91 · Dec 13, 2010

You see this is where im stuxk, these pics are not really the best to show her colouring etc. but she has same markings as the creamsicle you have pictured, is there any kind of specialist that could take a look at her pics and tell with distinctive things that she could have if shes a creamsicle?

tspuckler · Dec 14, 2010

Markings don't matter. The two snakes that are combined to make a creamsicle - Emory's Rat Snake and Corn Snake have the same markings. The idea behind a creamsicle is a pale orange snake.

If a snake had 1% Emory's Rat Snake and 99% Corn Snake, it would sill be a creamsicle, despite looking exactly like a Corn Snake. This is why no one will be able to tell you for sure what your snake is. You need to know the animal's complete genetic history in order to do that.

Hutchie91 · Dec 14, 2010

So im best off asking the shop owner i bought it from then? Not sure if he was the one who bred her though, thanks for all your help

Dreamsnake · Dec 14, 2010

That may work, however, many store owners do not disclose where they get their snakes. When I got my male snow, the store owner would only tell me that he came from a local breeder in town.

ratsnakehaven · Dec 15, 2010

Hutchie, your snake has too much white in it. It should be more yellowish, like Tim said.

When creamsicles were first made, they were 50% emoryi and 50% guttatus and they looked like creamsicle ice cream. That's what a creamsicle should look like. Ones that look like perfectly normal amel corns shouldn't be called creamsicles, imho, whether they have any emoryi in them or not.

Regards....TC

Hutchie91 · Jan 11, 2011

thought id give you guys a quick update on Cornetto, shes shed for the 2nd time and another very successful one!

im a happy guy, was told by a few on one of my posts that it could take 10-14 days for her to shed.. and didnt expect it but it ended up being 5 or 6! was amazed when i checked in and saw this skin strung along the bottom of her viv

anyways, some photo updates taken yesterday.. around 24 hours after shed

i also had a little play on photoshop on my ipod touch and come up with this funky pic, i adore how its outlined her scales and colour (not bad for a amature

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Sarah1228 · Jan 11, 2011

Very very nice! I still love that white on Cornetto's head! it looks so cool, like they said it looks almost plastic!

Daniel · Jan 15, 2011

It doesn't really matter, does it?

RavenSpirit360 · Jan 16, 2011

I love the missing color on her head.. Very cool.. And creamsicles can and do look like yours sometimes. But the only way to know for sure is to know the parentage. If there is ANY emoryi blood in your snake then yes it is considered a creamsicle.

RavenSpirit360 · Jan 16, 2011

ratsnakehaven said:
Hutchie, your snake has too much white in it. It should be more yellowish, like Tim said.

When creamsicles were first made, they were 50% emoryi and 50% guttatus and they looked like creamsicle ice cream. That's what a creamsicle should look like. Ones that look like perfectly normal amel corns shouldn't be called creamsicles, imho, whether they have any emoryi in them or not.

Regards....TC

Any amelanistic corn snake that has any amount of Emoryi blood in it should always be labeled as a creamsicle OR corn x rat hybrid. This is how we keep the bloodlines as clean as possible. Any corn with emoryi in it should never be sold as just a plain amel corn. Creamsicle means amelanistic corn X emoryi rat hybrid.. Just as Rootbeer is used for a classic emoryi corn hybrid. Creamsicles vary greatly in their appearance regardless of the amount of emoryi blood they have in them.

Hutchie91 · Feb 13, 2011

PIC UPDATE!

ill take some more later on and update

shes doing amazingly, couldnt ask for a better corn tbh, not bothered about people around her when she feeds, loves to be handled(jumpy at first tho bless) shes growing.. slowly haha, cant wait for her to get bigger and show off her beautiful colouring

Hutchie91 · Jul 30, 2011

i cant believe i have not updated this feed! i do still have cornetto and shes doing amazingly well, shes grow so rapid, just not had time to get on here and keep you guys updated, unfortunatly, for those who loved her 'plastic-like' markings, they have now faded, but shes still an amazing colour

as you can see from the pics, these were took yesterday 29th July 2011 fresh from a shed

hope you like em'!