-
Hello!
Either you have not registered on this site yet, or you are registered but have not logged in. In either case, you will not be able to use the full functionality of this site until you have registered, and then logged in after your registration has been approved.
Registration is FREE, so please register so you can participate instead of remaining a lurker....
Please be certain that the location field is correctly filled out when you register. All registrations that appear to be bogus will be rejected. Which means that if your location field does NOT match the actual location of your registration IP address, then your registration will be rejected.
Sorry about the strictness of this requirement, but it is necessary to block spammers and scammers at the door as much as possible.
Expensive Corn snake?
- Thread starter ozo80
- Start date
Blue Apple Herps
aka Matthew, PhD
At a show I wouldn't expect to pay more than $15-20 for an anery.
El Jefe
Mark 16:18
See above post. We must have posted at the same time.
Bluebird
lovin my Okeetee boy
whoa...a diamondback huh?...yikes...lol...I think I'd pass on that one:awcrap:
Blue Apple Herps
aka Matthew, PhD
Wow, didn't know that. Stupid rules. I get why they'd have them, but the majority of corns now are captive bred...
You still need a federal permit and the approval of your local chief LEO for the machine guns, however.......
When Connie and I were talking about moving from Maryland, we had to completely bypass considering Georgia for that reason about corn snakes. Matter of fact, quite likely we were likely breaking the law every time we drove THROUGH Georgia on the way to and from shows up north.
Camby
He will join us or die
Georgia Laws is there a loop hole????
Most people think the law in Georgia is "can't own native non venomous reptiles and amphibians." If that were true, then you couldn't own corns, a couple of the rats and a few pituophis, you get the idea. HOWEVER, the law is written on the books as a ban on the species level. IE, all subspecies of Elaphe, lampropeltis, Pituophis, etc...are illegal. You can't own emoryi, cal kings, variable kings, etc. in Georgia legally. Kathy loves advertises on her site that albino Emoryi can be owned in Georgia but that is not the case. I spent many long hours on the phone with Georgia DNR discussing this and that is the law. If a snake is a hybrid but part of the hybrid is a native "species", then it is also illegal.
That said, I wonder if Geeorgia law makers have had the foresight to change the way the law is written. When this "native non venomous" laws were written, corns fell under Elaphe Guttata guttata, now they are recognized as Pantherophis. Is that a legal loop hole? I don't know, I moved out several years ago and haven't kept up with the laws there. I do know that they produce a list of animals that are banned based on their common name, so that may be their saving grace.
Some buisnesses are allowed to keep them, there are a few pet store wholesale supply houses that can keep them and ship them out. They have to obtain a permit but they can legally posess and sell native non venomous.
At any rate, if you are still reading, my reply to the original poster is that all is not lost. You can obtain a scientific and educational permit for your animal. The permit is easily obtained, just contact DNR and ask them about it. The permit will allow you to posess native non ven's but you must complete and document a certain amount of education hours, I think it is around 18 per year. You get some native stuff AFTER you get the permit and give a talk at a school. Get a science teacher to let you do a talk for them. Typically you can talk to one class but the teacher logs down you spoke to their class, that equates to around 7 hours of talking in one day. A few of those and you have met your criteria. The problem with the permit is that you open yourself up to random inspections of your facilities. They reserve the right ot inspect you at any time for any reason.
Sorry to be long and for any grammatical and spelling errors, Good luck
dc
Most people think the law in Georgia is "can't own native non venomous reptiles and amphibians." If that were true, then you couldn't own corns, a couple of the rats and a few pituophis, you get the idea. HOWEVER, the law is written on the books as a ban on the species level. IE, all subspecies of Elaphe, lampropeltis, Pituophis, etc...are illegal. You can't own emoryi, cal kings, variable kings, etc. in Georgia legally. Kathy loves advertises on her site that albino Emoryi can be owned in Georgia but that is not the case. I spent many long hours on the phone with Georgia DNR discussing this and that is the law. If a snake is a hybrid but part of the hybrid is a native "species", then it is also illegal.
That said, I wonder if Geeorgia law makers have had the foresight to change the way the law is written. When this "native non venomous" laws were written, corns fell under Elaphe Guttata guttata, now they are recognized as Pantherophis. Is that a legal loop hole? I don't know, I moved out several years ago and haven't kept up with the laws there. I do know that they produce a list of animals that are banned based on their common name, so that may be their saving grace.
Some buisnesses are allowed to keep them, there are a few pet store wholesale supply houses that can keep them and ship them out. They have to obtain a permit but they can legally posess and sell native non venomous.
At any rate, if you are still reading, my reply to the original poster is that all is not lost. You can obtain a scientific and educational permit for your animal. The permit is easily obtained, just contact DNR and ask them about it. The permit will allow you to posess native non ven's but you must complete and document a certain amount of education hours, I think it is around 18 per year. You get some native stuff AFTER you get the permit and give a talk at a school. Get a science teacher to let you do a talk for them. Typically you can talk to one class but the teacher logs down you spoke to their class, that equates to around 7 hours of talking in one day. A few of those and you have met your criteria. The problem with the permit is that you open yourself up to random inspections of your facilities. They reserve the right ot inspect you at any time for any reason.
Sorry to be long and for any grammatical and spelling errors, Good luck
dc
El Jefe
Mark 16:18
Technically true.....but.....
I've vended many of the GA shows and they DO NOT allow corns. However, they do allow cal kings and the such, great plains rats (emoryi), FL kings (have to look like FL kings...not those eastern king lookers), and other stuff. Basically, if it lives in Georgia and is non-venomous, you can't own it even if it is a color morph.
I spoke with he DNR people at the last show sometime last year and they said they were aware of the cornsnake change from Elaphe to Pantherophis so I don't believe that is a loophole.
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
Hey look on the bright side......He can have a WDB....wooo hoooo.....You couldn't make it up..... LOL