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Expensive Corn snake?

Hey look on the bright side......He can have a WDB....wooo hoooo.....You couldn't make it up..... LOL

NOPE....not unless he had a permit. All exotic venomous requires a permit. All native non-venomous requires a permit. All native venomous is okay as long as local regs allow it. Gotta love those provisions for rattlesnake roundups!:puke01:

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Georgia Regs

Last I talked to GADNR, they siad that even though it was on a specific level, if you could convince them it was not a native species then likely you were ok. However, they advised me to stay away from Mexican Milks becuase it closely resembled a scarlet king, lol. They also couldn't identify a Gray/Black rat integrade, they asked me what it was. So, I would hate to be at the mercy of their interpretation

dc
 
Wow! Glad I read this one. I was thinking about finding employment in Atlanta, and subsequently moving. Guess I'll stick to my plans to move to Alabama instead.
 
So, I would hate to be at the mercy of their interpretation

dc

Ain't that the truth! Last show in Atlanta they told some guys to remove the animals from the tables. It was more of a warning thing for out of state vendors. In state guys, however, I don't think have it that easy.
 
Maybe you should consider a Florida King. I have two, and they are WONDERFUL!! Super excellent feeders, beautiful, friendly. Or a California King. My favorite snake is my Cali.
 
My second favorite snake is Cherry!! She's a corn! Third favorite, Jasper, corn. Fourth favorite, Lila, corn. Better stop there!
 
I know a large breeder in Georgia who has a ton of Florida Kings.

If the subspecies does not exist in Georgia, it is legal according to him - and that's how he makes a large portion of his income, so it's his place to know.

He does not however keep any Eastern Kings.

And changes in a scientific name are not going to create any loophole. Scientific names are not a legally binding identification, they don't go through congress or any other law body, if a state has defined a corn snakes as Elaphe guttata guttata then what scientific name body you choose to use when labeling your snake isn't going to matter, it's Elaphe guttata guttata to the state.
 
We have the same thing here in California - The California Red-legged frog is no longer Rana aurora draytonii but has been elevated to species level, Rana draytonii but still has all the protections afforded by the state to any subspecies of Rana aurora - the state just hasn't updated their regulations to reflect the taxonomy changes (turns out northern red-legged frog is actually closer related to cascades frog than it is to california red-legged) and probably won't for some time.
 
Florida Kings

I don't want to argue, but it was my place to know also, I lived there for 7 years. Florida Kings are illeagal to possess without permits. I asked specifically about Florida, Brooksi (btw, GA doesn't recognize Brooksi, they consider it a Florida king morph), Outer Banks and several others. One pet store in Milledgeville "ratted" out a competitor for selling Cal Kings and they removed his. He wasn't fined, but they advised him not to sell them anymore. Believe me, I researched the heck out of this, I had to get rid of all my corns, kings and nearly all my pines before relocating there because of their laws. I didn't want to take the chance on their "interpretation" of what I was keeping.

Below is taken from DNR Website

Laws Related to Native Wildlife
By Georgia Law, most native species of wildlife cannot be held without permits or licenses. These licenses are not issued for the purpose of holding native wildlife as pets. These restrictions apply to the various species of animal, regardless of the origin or morphology.

Exceptions
Georgia Law allows the taking of certain native species; namely rats, mice, armadillos, coyotes, groundhogs, beaver, freshwater turtles, poisonous snakes, frogs, spring lizards, fiddler crabs, freshwater crayfish, freshwater mussels, and nutria; because of their status as a nuisance or other reason. State regulations prohibit the holding of live armadillos, coyotes, groundhogs, and beaver without the proper permits or licenses. Certain freshwater turtles, mussels, and other species on Georgias Protected Wildlife List cannot be possessed or collected without proper licenses.

The following list of species native to Georgia may not be held as a pet regardless of its origin or morphology. Although extensive, this list does not include all native wildlife that is prohibited. If there is any doubt about the legality of possessing any species, contact the Georgia Department of Natural Resources Special Permit Unit

Reptiles and Amphibians -

Alligator
Alligator Snapping Turtle
Black Racer
Bog Turtle
Box Turtle (Eastern, Florida, Gulf Coast, Three-toed)
Brown Snake
Coachwhip
Corn Snake
Crayfish Snake (Glossy, Striped)
Crowned Snake (Southeastern, Central Florida)
Diamondback Terrapin
Earth Snake (Rough, Smooth)
Fence Lizard
Flatwoods Salamander
Florida Worm Lizard
Garter Snake
Georgia Blind Salamander
Glass Lizard (Eastern, Island, Mimic, Slender)
Gopher Tortoise
Green Anole
Green Salamander
Hellbender
Hognose Snake (Eastern, Southern)
Indigo Snake
Kingsnake (Black, Eastern, Mole, Scarlet)
Map Turtle (Alabama, Barbour's, Common)
Milksnake
Mud Snake
One-toed Amphiuma
Pigeon Mountain Salamander
Pine Snake (Florida, Northern)
Pine Woods Snake
Queen Snake
Rainbow Snake
Rat Snake (Black, Gray, Yellow)
Redbellied Snake
Ribbon Snake
Ringneck Snake
Rough Green Snake
Scarlet Snake
Sea Turtle (Green, Hawksbill, Leatherback, Loggerhead, Ridley)
Six-lined Racerunner
Skink (Broadhead, Coal, Five-lined, Southeastern Five-lined, Ground, Mole)
Spotted Turtle
Striped Newt
Water Snake (Banded, Brown, Florida Green, Northern, Redbelly)
Worm Snake

I don't have time to search for the list that spells out the animals by species name but will do so later. Notice that several common names above (bolded) are not specific so that means GA does not offer any exception for these such as the Milk Snakes.

dc
 
In your state, you can't keep anything on that list (posted by Camby) as a pet.

The list comes direct from the regulating authorities. Whilst other people may have been working with a different interpretation, I'd stick with the official line to avoid any legal problems.

Looks like your dream of owning a Corn Snake is out - sorry.
 
Note that on the list for kingsnake - they specify:

Kingsnake (Black, Eastern, Mole, Scarlet)

Black would be what we call EBK - L g niger
Eastern would be what we call Eastern - L g getula
Mole would be what we call Mole Kingsnake - Lampropeltis calligaster
Scarlet would be Lampropeltis triangulum elapsoides

It makes sense for milksnake to be general since there still is a lot of dispute about how the north american milksnake subspecies should be classified.

Note that Florida kingsnake, California Kingsnake, etc. is not specified. Two member of the getula complex are specified - the Eastern Black Kingsnake (aka black kingsnake) and the Eastern Kingsnake.

I bet if you call and ask three different people, you get four different answers - that's the way it is with just about any fish and game, when it comes to herps - most of the staff are not really familiar with the actual meaning of the regs, and don't really care to be.
 
These are the snake I was thinking of but I do not know which one to get?

1.)African house snake
2.)ball pythons
3.)florida king
4.)california king
 
I would go with those African House Snakes.. No chance of being mistaken for anything else and boy are they cool...
 
African House Snake

I second that nominee. If you get a good feeder, they make great pet snakes. Really cool looking and if the reeding bug bites, there are available morphs. You can even pick up adults and yearlings at reasonable prices.

dc
 
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