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pheonix

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:puke01: I'm so nervous and excited! I was planning on breeding my butter motley to my amel motley, but I decided that I can't wait a year for him to grow so I put my big normal in with my amel. I didn't even know for sure what gender my normal was, but he took no time getting down to bussiness!!

So I am supposed to put them back together like every 3 days or so until she sheds right? I can't believe this went so smoothly!
 
I have a 14 tub rack with heat tape and hides and water bowls and everything you'd need. I have 10 tubs to breed mice in and have been doing so successfully for over a year now. The female is either 480 grams or 380 grams, I can't remember which. But she is deffinately over 300. The male is 585 grams. I've thought about breeding for over a year, and know the genetics very well. I have spent over a thousand dollars on snakes, but yet only have 4. None of which are over $50. I know that's not a lot, but it is to a 15/16 year old who has to save up to buy one little thing. I thought I had read that you are supposed to pair them up until she sheds, or maybe it was when she is visually gravid? I couldn't remember which one it was. But thanks for not answering my question.

I just don't want to be mistaken for one of those people who just throw them together without a plan. I also wanted to strike up a conversation. Some people keep them together for hours, then seperate. Then others put them together for 30 minutes, then seperate for a few days.
 
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to airenlow again"

I think his point was these are morphs that are already saturated in the market and become disposable pets. As for not being patient enough to wait.... I'm waiting quite patiently on a male of mine for a particular female. I COULD pair her with any ol' snake (she has about five hets) just to get babies, but I have a goal in mind - sunkissed aneries, a relatively uncommon morph that is well sought after.

As for your question, I would not leave them together for longer than you have to. Breeders have lost males and females this way. Do you have a reputable reptile vet in mind in case something goes wrong? Eggbinding can kill a female. I have a grand set aside for any such problems, and am still adding to that fund.
 
I have already seperated them and didn't plan to keep them together for even more than an hour. I've been curious about whether or not my normal had any hets. And seeing how amel and motley are pretty common hets, I might get some surprises. You say these morphs are saturated in the market but if you've been to any of the shows in oklahoma you'd think differently. I'm not disagreeing with you about there being a lot of them, but I think a few normals won't be extremely difficult to sell. I'm prepared to take care of them for probably more than a year. I don't have a reputable vet, mostly because there isn't one close by.
 

I figured since I am set up to take care of the babies and can handle it, I would put them together to see if he is a male. That way if he was, I'd just let them lock and not be worried about not having housing for the hatchlings. Plus the unknown hets. It's not like what I was waiting to breed was an extravagant or not-so-common morph. It would have produced more amel motleys. Which are probably just a little bit easier to sell. It's what I have and I've really wanted to breed.
 
I was gonna respond.....But I think all that needs to be said....Has been said.

I'll leave you with this.....

welcome to the world of Corn snake Breeding. That $1000.00 you've invested thus far......The Forthcoming clutch will eat that before the year is up.

Good Luck with this clutch, and any that may come in the future.

Hopefully you wont have to deal with egg binding, or hatchlings that refuse to eat.
 
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