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Force Feeding - NEVER AGAIN - Dead Snake
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xreinx
New member
you should sue. The person clearly wasent experenced with snakes, at least put the word out that the person is Killing Animals insted of helping. my sister is a vet tech, she says and quote
"a good vet won't make a cat scream in pain, or hide what he is doing behind closed doors, he will invite you in to see just what he's doing with your animal, Force with an animal is not needed in the profession, even if it is reluctant or aggressive."
"a good vet won't make a cat scream in pain, or hide what he is doing behind closed doors, he will invite you in to see just what he's doing with your animal, Force with an animal is not needed in the profession, even if it is reluctant or aggressive."
bitsy
Owned by Corns since 1991
Have to say I agree with the above. Bleeding after force-feeding is not normal and they don't have "sensitive gums". What a crock. You can knock teeth out and graze, tear or injure the inside of the mouth or throat if you're rough, catch an instrument on them or don't use enough lubricant on the food item. They don't bleed spontaneously.
An admission that something went wrong and an immediate apology wouldn't have brought your babe back but at least it might indicate that the vet wouldn't do it (whatever it was) again. I'm so cross on your behalf.
An admission that something went wrong and an immediate apology wouldn't have brought your babe back but at least it might indicate that the vet wouldn't do it (whatever it was) again. I'm so cross on your behalf.
diamondlil
Mice! They taste so nice!
I couldn't agree more. I syringe fed Lil, then progressed to force-feeding until she finally started eating, not once did I get any bleeding or injury to her mouth, and I'm just an amateur who's force-fed and raised baby birds before having snakes to deal with.
xreinx
New member
its not only that, but we spend money on our "hobbys" and I dont know about you, but its taken me A Long time to get my collection This big, these Snakes This old, at this size and Healthy at the same time!
that was a young snake.. hopes for the future .. gone, because one idiot thinks hes smarter then someone else and does something that the Origional Snake Owners Know Not to do! all that time you spent taking care of her, worrying over her, all for naught.. why? it shouldent have happened. if he is indeed a vet, your snake should not be dead. warning signs and flags are waving here. you need to ask to see his Vet Id License. maybe report him to the Regonal head of vets in your area. if he Killed yours.. Just think of what hes doing To other peoples pets. I know Id be upset if someone kept quiet and my animal died under the same vets care, because they didnt say anything until much later..
that was a young snake.. hopes for the future .. gone, because one idiot thinks hes smarter then someone else and does something that the Origional Snake Owners Know Not to do! all that time you spent taking care of her, worrying over her, all for naught.. why? it shouldent have happened. if he is indeed a vet, your snake should not be dead. warning signs and flags are waving here. you need to ask to see his Vet Id License. maybe report him to the Regonal head of vets in your area. if he Killed yours.. Just think of what hes doing To other peoples pets. I know Id be upset if someone kept quiet and my animal died under the same vets care, because they didnt say anything until much later..
wstphal
working in the Gulag
There are state licensing boards for veterinarians, just like other people with professional licenses (physicians, nurses, pharmacists, attorneys). I don't know how much trouble you can create for a vet, but complaining to a physician licensing board creates immense havoc for the doctor that they will deal with for years. Here's the link for filing a complaint against a vet in Colorado if you want to go that route:
http://www.dora.state.co.us/veterinarians/complaints.htm
http://www.dora.state.co.us/veterinarians/complaints.htm
xreinx
New member
yea, I know, its a harsh route, but "He" says its "normal" for a snakes gums to bleed after a force feeding.. how many times has he done Just that, and had a snakes mouth bleed.. and he calls it Normal?
you gadda think... how many Injured snakes Lived Threw that? or Not lived threw it... how many people lost their pets this same way?
im just saying.. "if" he calls it normal. then he must send a lot of snakes home with bleeding mouths, and if thats true.. Yikes... is all I can say.
he should be trying to figure out why shes not eating, Not force feeding your snake for you. you at least would have been careful with her.
im sorry for your loss.. and angry, it could have been provented. he should at least refund your money, and if he dosent, well.. file a complant.
if hes killing animals, he should stop and go back to school so he could learn to treat animals the right way.
you gadda think... how many Injured snakes Lived Threw that? or Not lived threw it... how many people lost their pets this same way?
im just saying.. "if" he calls it normal. then he must send a lot of snakes home with bleeding mouths, and if thats true.. Yikes... is all I can say.
he should be trying to figure out why shes not eating, Not force feeding your snake for you. you at least would have been careful with her.
im sorry for your loss.. and angry, it could have been provented. he should at least refund your money, and if he dosent, well.. file a complant.
if hes killing animals, he should stop and go back to school so he could learn to treat animals the right way.
CULEBRA85
JUST ANOTHER JOSH!!! LOL
I am so sorry for ur loss...i work at at vet and we have force fed many animals including reptiles and i have never witnessed bleeding...there is something very wrong here....ur vet shoulda suggested tube feeding instead of wat he/she did. Again i am so sorry u lost ur baby!!
Irish Eyes (Mrs.Z)
Zookeeper
I am SO sorry for your loss! Poor little one. Sounds as if the vet was way too rough, and, if I know most vets (and here at Collie Capers, with all our animals, I DO know most of them in this town 
, they rarely take responsibility for their mistakes, let alone admit to making them! Maybe they don't have malpractice insurance like docs do....
I currently have a little non-feeder amel who is being tube fed. So far, so good. *knocks wood* I tried assist and force feeding her, and she wasn't going for it. No way was I going to truly FORCE something down her throat. Those littles are too delicate for ham-fisted handling.
May your baby rest in peace.
, they rarely take responsibility for their mistakes, let alone admit to making them! Maybe they don't have malpractice insurance like docs do....I currently have a little non-feeder amel who is being tube fed. So far, so good. *knocks wood* I tried assist and force feeding her, and she wasn't going for it. No way was I going to truly FORCE something down her throat. Those littles are too delicate for ham-fisted handling.
May your baby rest in peace.
Yarmuck
The Poopsmith
Sorry to hear about your loss. We've had to force feed one of our Chondros before, and it was one of the most stressful experiences of my life. It kept her alive though, and she eventually started eating on her own.
The weird thing is, when you resort to force feeding something as small as your pictured snake, you typically only start with a pinky head or something of the like. Just to get enough in there to slow down the "wasting away."
Really sorry for your loss.
The weird thing is, when you resort to force feeding something as small as your pictured snake, you typically only start with a pinky head or something of the like. Just to get enough in there to slow down the "wasting away."
Really sorry for your loss.
wstphal
working in the Gulag
I am SO sorry for your loss! Poor little one. Sounds as if the vet was way too rough, and, if I know most vets (and here at Collie Capers, with all our animals, I DO know most of them in this town
IIRC, they do have malpractice insurance, however, you can't sue for pain and suffering, only for the "economic value" of the animal as measured by an archaic legal set of rules based on food animals (making pet animals virtually worthless and purchase price, again, IIRC, not very relevant either). Because of the unlikelihood of a large jury award, attorneys don't want to take vet med-mal plaintiffs because it won't be profitable for the attorney. So it's all rather difficult to do any large scale financial damage to the vet. Maybe someone who knows more than I do can correct any inadvertent errors I made in this post...
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marshaelaine
New member
I am so sorry for your loss, I am force feeding my anery lavender because she will not eat. I cut, then mash a pinkie, put it in one of my diabetic syringes and put into her mouth, then push the pinkie into her throat. I do about 1/2 a syringe at a time and rub her throat to make sure she gets it down before I do the rest.
I am hoping my baby will eat soon, but has not for 1 and 1/2 months.
In all this time I have never had "Shea" bleed when feeding her.
I am sorry again for your loss,
Marsha
I am hoping my baby will eat soon, but has not for 1 and 1/2 months.
In all this time I have never had "Shea" bleed when feeding her.
I am sorry again for your loss,
Marsha
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vetusvates
Gamaliel's Principle
Sorry for your loss...she was a very pretty snake.
I have only used force-feeding as a very last resort. And do not advocate it for anyone nervous or unsure...or...incapable.
I fed a western pygmy rattler over the summer of 1980, and I never bled, nor did she. She delivered 5 healthy mini-hots that August.
I'd done it successfully before then, and since, with other snakes....and never had a bleeding snake.
I have only used force-feeding as a very last resort. And do not advocate it for anyone nervous or unsure...or...incapable.
I fed a western pygmy rattler over the summer of 1980, and I never bled, nor did she. She delivered 5 healthy mini-hots that August.
I'd done it successfully before then, and since, with other snakes....and never had a bleeding snake.
MotleyCrue
misfit
First, I am very sorry to hear about your loss.
Second
You can however file a complaint yourself and cause them some headache. If you go to your local Courthouse you should be able to get the Civil Complaint forms you need. While you can't sue for pain and suffering you can ask for punitive damage awards.
This is the real fun part. Once you file the complaint you can send it to the local papers and try to get them to publish it. That would seriously hurt the reputation of the Vet and also probably force them to the negotiating table. I would also call the local news station.
Second
You are correct. With little to no possible gain for an attorney it would be very hard to find one to take your case. However, some may be willing if you put up cost and fee money up front. Risky.
You can however file a complaint yourself and cause them some headache. If you go to your local Courthouse you should be able to get the Civil Complaint forms you need. While you can't sue for pain and suffering you can ask for punitive damage awards.
This is the real fun part. Once you file the complaint you can send it to the local papers and try to get them to publish it. That would seriously hurt the reputation of the Vet and also probably force them to the negotiating table. I would also call the local news station.
omni
antiunresemiretirismic
Sorry for your loss :_( Poor little snakie.
<- gets image in mind of vet packing fuzzy into snake's mouth, using a probe to push down forcibly. Definately should not be any bleeding, the only proper way to force feed is tube feeding using something like a pinkie pump. This vet is incompetent with snakes and complaint should be filed even if to just cause the vet some difficulty.
You should have been invited to watch the procedure. Anytime I've been to the vet for any animal, other than major surgery like a canine c-section, I've helped hold the animal or been there in the room to observe and see the work.
I hope I never have to go through what you have, and feel very sad for your loss.
<- gets image in mind of vet packing fuzzy into snake's mouth, using a probe to push down forcibly. Definately should not be any bleeding, the only proper way to force feed is tube feeding using something like a pinkie pump. This vet is incompetent with snakes and complaint should be filed even if to just cause the vet some difficulty.
You should have been invited to watch the procedure. Anytime I've been to the vet for any animal, other than major surgery like a canine c-section, I've helped hold the animal or been there in the room to observe and see the work.
I hope I never have to go through what you have, and feel very sad for your loss.
Im so sorry to hear about this It really sucks that you went to the vet for help and they did this.
I understand where your coming from, my first leopard gecko got a really bad impacted sperm plug that I went to the vet to have removed. They were so rough with him that later that night after I'd gone to bed he started bleeding and bled out all over the cage. It was even worse that this was one of my first pet reptiles and had for 10 years or so.
I understand where your coming from, my first leopard gecko got a really bad impacted sperm plug that I went to the vet to have removed. They were so rough with him that later that night after I'd gone to bed he started bleeding and bled out all over the cage. It was even worse that this was one of my first pet reptiles and had for 10 years or so.